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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #90 on: February 21, 2012, 01:27:58 AM »
With the kind of figures being thrown around, in dollar terms anywhere from 50-150,000, I can imagine it would not be difficult to find a high enough official to facilitate his freedom. Nonetheless, the evidence that seems to be piling up will eventually make the most stalwart "employee" wash his hands and say "nice doing business with you sir, but here is where I move on to greener pastures". Put it this way woody, I hear that Filipino jails have an excellent weight loss program.

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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #91 on: February 21, 2012, 02:13:11 AM »
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With the kind of figures being thrown around, in dollar terms anywhere from 50-150,000, I can imagine it would not be difficult to find a high enough official to facilitate his freedom. Nonetheless, the evidence that seems to be piling up will eventually make the most stalwart "employee" wash his hands and say "nice doing business with you sir, but here is where I move on to greener pastures". Put it this way woody, I hear that Filipino jails have an excellent weight loss program.


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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #92 on: February 21, 2012, 04:20:27 AM »
Quote from: 'Admin' pid='767' dateline='1329786428'..... I did hear of a class action against Paul for the lending but as far as I am aware it hasn't gone through yet and maybe just a case of anger at the time. .....

I am one of the investors and I would like to know more about this class action please. Also pls PM me if possible in case if you are an unpaid investor, like me.

The way I see it is the following:

First, Paul and William Aragoni JR (who died recently) have fed the potential investors with the story of safe investment for a salary loan business, backed by the Carcar authorities.
We were told that only employees of the municipio would be given loans and their ATM cards would be kept by the "company" (by Bill and Paul) then o paydays they withdraw the money together and the payment for the loan would be deducted on the spot.

5% monthly was promised for the investors by Paul. Later they backed off from that.

Secondly - with a super theatrical acting out in LinC Bill has abandoned the business one fine day, right after having a number of challenging questions from the investors which he either ignored or answered but the answers were lousy, to be subtle. It looked so fake and suspicious that I smelled the rat and started to ask my money back, which has been ignored.

They started payouts to certain small investors who were paid back not only their investments but their profits, too. These are mostly Paul's and Bill's friends.

I have personally challenged them in the forum and by email as there was no reasonable logic to do that. Either all investors should have been paid according to their % contribution to the total sum in the investor pool, or no payment to anyone.
They continued to pay out people with no transparency.

So all these little elements of the game make it look a scam.

1) ensure victims its risk free and safe
2) promise big gains
3) pay many people with small money so they talk about they were fully paid
4) then run away with the big money left in

The only thing no one have seen is the list of the names who actually borrowed. That one always kept away from the eyes of the investors. I tried to take a look a few times, they always tried to find some excuse not to show.

When the Sh$t has hit the fan (and it was not recently - before anybody thinks that, but LONG ago) Paul started the strategy of being only a "messenger" who has only let others know about the "business".

I think what is needed to be clarified whether there were really loans given to people and who they are.

Then the whereabouts of Paul. He has been planning his escape to Cambodia or other place - I wont like if he does that using my money.

Important to know where is Julie, as if there was a lending business at all, she was the only one who took care of that, Bill gave no Sh$t about it as he admitted in front of some investors, including me that Julie took care of the business and his role was to ask her "is everything alright?"

So the money could be at 3 places:

- with Paul
- with Julie (after the death of Bill) - and as she was not married with Bill, she may have no access to it
- borrowers, allegedly 100 over of them not paid the installments

I think instead of giving these criminals more time, investors should work together to stop them before they escape for good.












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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #93 on: February 21, 2012, 06:14:36 AM »
Quote from: 'harrell' pid='738' dateline='1329765164'
Greetings all
I have come upon this forum from a friend's recommendations.
I have met Paul way back, and have followed his antics from the days when he was living with Don Herrington.
I have known many of Paul's so called buddies, and have many facts about each of them.
I have followed Paul's post on many forums, and have witnessed his lies and stories that he likes to tell.
Back in the days of his Yahoo groups, he would love to brag about how he liked to humiliate JJ.

You can trace Paul's activities back to the USA, when he was running websites about Jeeps.
He was reselling Jeep parts back then, I guess the beginnings of his internet scamming.
He then got divorced, and before heading to the Philippines, applied for Social Security disability. Somehow he was granted the disability. But when his ex-wife learned of his scam, she turned him in, and Paul was cut off from his scammed income.

He then started all his internet businesses, Pointman Cebu, that ripped off many people. His tour business, and you can guess what types of tours he promoted.
His old forum got into trouble with the city of Cebu. He had a sub forum that dealt with Cebu's nightlife. Prostitution was promoted, dubious pictures posted, and in general just smut filled. Well someone posted about Paul using the Official Seal of Cebu City, making it appear that his forum was an official Cebu website.
Paul got scared and removed the Seal, and handed over the "nightlife" section to his porno peddling buddy who was a moderator at the time. Paul and this guy soon had a falling out, as with most of his buddies. To this day Paul hates the guy's guts.

What was his downfall was that his passport was stolen and he never bothered to get a new one. He was living in the Philippines without a passport, thus no visa stamps. The day he hit JJ over a lost pool game, JJ turned him in. Of course Paul could not produce a passport or any visas. He was jailed until the embassy issued him a passport, and as he tells it, voluntarily left the Philippines to Australia to hook up with his 2 buddies there.

So you can see Paul has been a scammer and con-man all his life, and has told more lies than anyone I can think of.

I have much more info on all of his buddies, many of them smut peddlers, drunks, pedos, sexpats, and assorted other trash.

The reason I hate these types, as I live in the Philippines, and believe me, that these guys portray a bad image for all of us.
Making a stand and exposing them is what is needed, and it shows that good people will not tolerate foreigners who come to the Philippines to degrade the country and it's people.

More, much more to come.........


Hi Harrell,

Welcome to the forum and thank you very much for the information. It portrays Paul as the kind of person many of us here knows him to be.

I can understand why some people think he's a good guy, even Hitler had a good side. He built museums and promoted art. They just don't know the real Paul like we do.

I'm looking forward to your next post.
Quote from: 'The Stig' pid='746' dateline='1329782047'
Well, now everyone is freed to talk openly more pieces are arriving  Soon we should have enough to reveal the true picture.




Just one more piece and the picture will be complete, haha. I don't believe it will end that soon. There are several more pieces.
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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #94 on: February 21, 2012, 09:37:44 AM »
Moalboring what was the lending business called? maybe worth starting a fresh topic asking for lenders to come forward either in private or on the forum under a new lending heading. Reason being is you guys need to discuss this stuff between yourselves and decide how you want to go forward with it. If anyone has access to who else is owed money I would advise contacting them and making them aware of the situation and Moalboring so that trying to get things recovered can be done.

Topic won't get locked on here, but would advise starting a fresh one and only people that have invested in this venture can discuss in there.

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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #95 on: February 21, 2012, 10:48:29 AM »
I have opened a new thread here where present and previous investors in Paul Petrea's loans business can exchange information. Perhaps appropriately it is in the "Warnings and Dangers" section.

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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #96 on: February 21, 2012, 12:00:46 PM »
odds on Paul's location

Angeles 4-1
Cebu 6-1
Manila 10-1

somewhere else in the Philippines 6-1

some other country in south east Asia 6-1

United States 20-1
Australia (where he went last time he got deported) 20-1
« Last Edit: February 21, 2012, 12:02:13 PM by whippy »

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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #97 on: February 21, 2012, 12:44:35 PM »
Whippy with the right amount Paul take you up on your odds.  

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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #98 on: February 21, 2012, 12:49:58 PM »
Maybe it is time to take a new approach to bringing Paul to justice.
I am not a lawyer or very well versed in law, but let's take a fresh approach to put some heat on the guy.

He is an American, so US law still applies to him.
He has US citizen investors.
Many paid him through Paypal, probably to a US bank account.
His website resides on a US server.
If he is in the USA, which I highly doubt, maybe the investors can bring charges against him in the USA.
If he was paid through Paypal wouldn't that be fraud or money wire fraud?
That turns it into a criminal case, then you have the Feds after him.

Again, just some thoughts on trying a different approach. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can address the legal issues that Paul may face in the USA. I think if it is a criminal case, instead of civil, the Feds would be interested in finding him. With the amounts suggested he brought in, I would think it would be a felony. The Feds could surely find him.
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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #99 on: February 21, 2012, 01:34:55 PM »
If we can add attachments, I can prove that Paul is the subject of one or more on-going felony investigations in his home state of Georgia, which proves he will not go back there because he has legal problems there too.

Paul is hidng now but one day his head will pop up just like a ground hog coming out of its hole, hahahaha.

Can we add attachments?

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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #100 on: February 21, 2012, 01:42:43 PM »
If you hit new reply and not the quick reply there is a place to add attachments.

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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #101 on: February 21, 2012, 01:59:52 PM »
Thanks Tim,

This past November a request was sent to the Georgia State Police and the attachment is their reply.

It says there is an open case which is one of the listed felony violations.

Now, does his supporters believe he has legal problems in America too?  

He was on the run in 1992 when he left Georgia and came to the Philippines. And, he has had legal problems in the Philippines in the past and still does today. As Immigration said to me, his days are numbered.

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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #102 on: February 21, 2012, 02:03:28 PM »
Americano, your attachment is not included.
My heart is in the Pinas :D

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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #103 on: February 21, 2012, 02:14:27 PM »
I will try to attach to again. Maybe doing the preview affected it.

What does Update Attachment do?

[ Specified attachment is not available ]

Oh, I think I figured it out. At the bottom right corner you have to click on Insert Into Post, duh, hehe

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RE: Looking for Paul Petrea In Cebu
« Reply #104 on: February 21, 2012, 02:20:21 PM »
Now is that not an interesting ember to add to the fire.  

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