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1. Xoom has been well known for it's dropping people's accounts. I dropped them after it happened to me twice for no reason.

2. People stayed on LinC for as long as they did for various reason.
a. They had some tie monetarily. ie.. Angie and her Cebuano lessons, Daisy and her charity, Paul W and CES, me running the Gustavian
b. Paul skillfully used moderator status like a double edged sword. He strategically gives and takes this carrot to control the flow and people. People like headshot who are decent people for sure let the moderating thing go to their head and it overrides their common sense and morality.
c. There are good people and lots of information there.  As many have said.
d. I used to love to find the whinging wankers and spin them up. I have repented! LOL

3. There is no reason to choose LinC or LiPF, use them both if you are so inclined. For me, I just could not add valuable content anymore (and I added tons to LinC) to a site owned by such a thieving letch without any scruples!

4. Yes there is always going to be some speculation about something so controversial. I did not mean to sound like everything written here is gospel. But as stated, there is irrefutable proof of so many of the accusations that I am surprised by some people's insistence on championing Paul further.

5. Many of the people sticking up for Paul have only met him a couple of times. Paul is usually good enough to be able to hide his true self unless he gets too drunk, which was 80% of the time. But people who have been here for 5 years or so have had ample time to put Paul in the right corner with the rest of the undesirables. It's common knowledge here in Cebu to most expats who know him. It's just the forum where he can spin his way into being Mr. Charity who respects veterans and Filipinos while commanding the Cebuano language skillfully. Bullsh!t!

6. In a witch hunt, there was no real crime, it was made up. In this hunt, we have factual proof of assault and battery of Filipinas, sexual exploitation of a minor, visa fraud, illegal loan business which could translate to estafa just to cover the biggest charges. How can you dare say this is a witch hunt?
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Understood.?

"I used to love to find the whinging wankers and spin them up. I have repented! LOL"


I have NOT repented. :D

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Quote from: Bob Ward on Yesterday at 11:56:21 PM1. Xoom has been well known for it's dropping people's accounts. I dropped them after it happened to me twice for no reason.

2. People stayed on LinC for as long as they did for various reason.
a. They had some tie monetarily. ie.. Angie and her Cebuano lessons, Daisy and her charity, Paul W and CES, me running the Gustavian
b. Paul skillfully used moderator status like a double edged sword. He strategically gives and takes this carrot to control the flow and people. People like headshot who are decent people for sure let the moderating thing go to their head and it overrides their common sense and morality.
c. There are good people and lots of information there.  As many have said.
d. I used to love to find the whinging wankers and spin them up. I have repented! LOL

3. There is no reason to choose LinC or LiPF, use them both if you are so inclined. For me, I just could not add valuable content anymore (and I added tons to LinC) to a site owned by such a thieving letch without any scruples!

4. Yes there is always going to be some speculation about something so controversial. I did not mean to sound like everything written here is gospel. But as stated, there is irrefutable proof of so many of the accusations that I am surprised by some people's insistence on championing Paul further.

5. Many of the people sticking up for Paul have only met him a couple of times. Paul is usually good enough to be able to hide his true self unless he gets too drunk, which was 80% of the time. But people who have been here for 5 years or so have had ample time to put Paul in the right corner with the rest of the undesirables. It's common knowledge here in Cebu to most expats who know him. It's just the forum where he can spin his way into being Mr. Charity who respects veterans and Filipinos while commanding the Cebuano language skillfully. Bullsh!t!

6. In a witch hunt, there was no real crime, it was made up. In this hunt, we have factual proof of assault and battery of Filipinas, sexual exploitation of a minor, visa fraud, illegal loan business which could translate to estafa just to cover the biggest charges. How can you dare say this is a witch hunt?

You see, I think you do expect everyone to take what is said in this thread as gospel.  If anyone is not sure or makes comments about motives then they are championing Paul or being an apologist or don't understand.

Some of you really don't get it.  Making statements that are not facts and passing them off as facts is what I would consider a witch hunt.  Plenty of that in this thread. 

I would imagine Evan thinks he is reporting facts on his blog.  I see a lot of nonsense accusations in this thread just like Evan's blog. I already listed some and won't be doing it again. 

There is no way everything in this thread is facts since they can't be proven.  I would also say that I wouldn't believe anyone who has a reason for vengeance. 

For example, Americano stated his wife was physically assaulted by Paul.  Why did Americano sit there and allow it to happen?  Of course, this isn't talked about.

Another example Bob, you state the loan stuff was illegal but from my understanding you were an investor.  Why would you be an investor in an illegal loan business?

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Quote from: lifeisgood on Today at 12:11:55 AMSome of you really don't get it. 
There is no way everything in this thread is facts since they can't be proven.  I would also say that I wouldn't believe anyone who has a reason for vengeance. 

Another example Bob, you state the loan stuff was illegal but from my understanding you were an investor.  Why would you be an investor in an illegal loan business?

1 --- "I wouldn't believe anyone who has a reason for vengeance.  " And why NOT.?

2 --- "Americano stated his wife was physically assaulted by Paul.*
Why did Americano sit there and allow it to happen?  Of course, this isn't talked about."

Well it was talked about in the "other place" & here.? ? BUT me? I would not wish to engage a "Raging Bull".
I suspect (know) the average Joe/Jonny would not like to either.

* Were it Tex I would have attended his funeral.!

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Quote from: singers on Today at 12:29:56 AM
1 --- "I wouldn't believe anyone who has a reason for vengeance.  " And why NOT.?

2 --- "Americano stated his wife was physically assaulted by Paul. * Why did Americano sit there and allow it to happen?  Of course, this isn't talked about." Well it was talked about in the "other place" ? BUT me? I would not wish to engage a "Raging Bull". I suspect (know) the average Joe/Jonny would not like to either.

3. "Another example Bob, you state the loan stuff was illegal but from my understanding you were an investor.  Why would you be an investor in an illegal loan business?" This I know NOWT bout.

* Were it Tex I would have attended his funeral.!

Tom

Just to keep my response clear I will use that numero thing you like Tom.  haha

1.  I hate to answer a question with a question but it is the best I can do.  Would you take Evan's blog seriously? 

2.  I would never let my wife face a "raging bull" on her own.

3.  Still waiting for more info as to why investors invested in an apparently illegal business.

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Quote from: lifeisgood on Today at 12:39:17 AM
Quote from: singers on Today at 12:29:56 AM
1 --- "I wouldn't believe anyone who has a reason for vengeance.  " And why NOT.?

2 --- "Americano stated his wife was physically assaulted by Paul. * Why did Americano sit there and allow it to happen?  Of course, this isn't talked about." Well it was talked about in the "other place" ? BUT me? I would not wish to engage a "Raging Bull". I suspect (know) the average Joe/Jonny would not like to either.

3. "Another example Bob, you state the loan stuff was illegal but from my understanding you were an investor.  Why would you be an investor in an illegal loan business?" This I know NOWT bout.

* Were it Tex I would have attended his funeral.!

Tom

Just to keep my response clear I will use that numero thing you like Tom.  haha

1.  I hate to answer a question with a question but it is the best I can do.  Would you take Evan's blog seriously? 

2.  I would never let my wife face a "raging bull" on her own.

3.  Still waiting for more info as to why investors invested in an apparently illegal business.

1. NO.!

2. My point was that a husband faced with a "Raging Bull" attacking his G/F - wife? might NOT want to engage the Bull.?
It is not for me to criticize the FKN cowardly WIMP. ?

3. Stupid GREED. IMHO ...

Tom
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Quote from: lifeisgood on Today at 12:11:55 AM
You see, I think you do expect everyone to take what is said in this thread as gospel.  If anyone is not sure or makes comments about motives then they are championing Paul or being an apologist or don't understand.

Some of you really don't get it.  Making statements that are not facts and passing them off as facts is what I would consider a witch hunt.  Plenty of that in this thread. 

I would imagine Evan thinks he is reporting facts on his blog.  I see a lot of nonsense accusations in this thread just like Evan's blog. I already listed some and won't be doing it again. 

There is no way everything in this thread is facts since they can't be proven.  I would also say that I wouldn't believe anyone who has a reason for vengeance. 

For example, Americano stated his wife was physically assaulted by Paul.  Why did Americano sit there and allow it to happen?  Of course, this isn't talked about.

Another example Bob, you state the loan stuff was illegal but from my understanding you were an investor.  Why would you be an investor in an illegal loan business?

Mate, don't tempt me to repent my repentance! LOL

You are just bobbing and weaving because you have less legs to stand on than those who want Paul to answer for his crimes. Very weak commentary for sure. You are going off on tangents which are not to the case and point.

The following points are irrefutable regardless of any ancillary questions

Paul beat JJ
Paul beat Manylin
Paul Choked Vivian twice
Paul lived with a 16 year old
He was staying here on purchased BB stamps and also overstayed, that's why he had to buy his way out of the country through Davao, Singapore and then Thailand.
He was deeply involved in an unregistered loan business and people's money disappeared.

Evan makes no effort to seek the truth, he just shoots from the hip with reckless abandon not caring who he hits. He is the epitome of a keyboard commando, but he also seems to lack a few marbles!

We are people here on the ground daily trying to rid our place of yet one more sexpat wanker giving the rest of us a bad name!

The questions about Americano's actions, or lack of them, have been discussed here. Personally I still have questions about that. BUT, it does not change the fact that many eye witnesses saw this take place and Paul damn sure knows better after having to do a runner when he abused his wife JJ.

I chipped in P10K in the early stages of what I thought to be a pseudo investment club. Shortly thereafter I exited stage left when it grew to something else and the bickering started. I was in for 6 months or so, I forget honestly. I don't apologize for that!


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"We are people here on the ground daily trying to rid our place of yet one more sexpat wanker giving the rest of us a bad name!"

EXCELLENT.!!
  1420-0



Exceedingly so and rather a praiseworthy endeavor.  Twood be my "forte" also.

Tom

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This is more like >:D what I iz...
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Bob, I am glad you are taking this in the context it was intended.  I appreciate the answers.

I remember the loan stuff on the forum.  He made it pretty clear as to what people where investing in (maybe after you got in) so I can't understand why other investors would want to be a part of that if it was illegal.

So these are the facts? 

QuotePaul beat JJ
Paul beat Manylin
Paul Choked Vivian twice
Paul lived with a 16 year old
He was staying here on purchased BB stamps and also overstayed, that's why he had to buy his way out of the country through Davao, Singapore and then Thailand.
He was deeply involved in an unregistered loan business and people's money disappeared.

Things like him still in Philippines, forum proceeds going into his pockets, him and jinky using foreigners for cash, him living in Thailand, him moving to Camobodia, people being afraid to prosecute him, etc... are not facts? 

Reading some of this stuff seems like an attempt to make Paul look like the Al Capone of Philippines?

Trying to ascertain what is opinion and what is fact since this thread was suppose to be strictly fact based (from my understanding).

Where was Jinky's parents in all of this?





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Quote from: MattWilkie on Yesterday at 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: DaddyMike on Yesterday at 04:23:04 PMYou guys have me totally confused on this Sh*T

When I joined LinC in Aug/Sep 2010, I joined as a Life Time Member - I sent Paul $45 - Does that make me now, two years later, an aider and abettor of Paul's? Reference to donations is quite simply people don't know where they go. As Art pointed out if Paul doesn't give it to charity then its not really an issue but why should he lie? If he's running a server its setting back at least $80 a month so could just as easily said it goes on running costs. Bearing in mind Paul "Tells people" he gives it to charity. I for one never asked as quite simply what he does with his money is his business but lying about giving it to charity is just wrong if he keeps it.When I sent Paul my $45 it was for an eBook (that I have not found that useful) and what I presumed would be used for maintenance of the site - Paul never mentioned anything about Charity - he may have done that later on, but it was not part of any agreement I was involved in.

Some time in July/ Aug of 2010 (Before I became a member of LinC) I had some account problems with Xoom - they dropped my account with out explanation.  Good News for me, I found a better service to transfer money from the US to our Accounts here in the Philippines.  Some time after I joined the LinC, Paul shared his story about his difficulties with Xoom - I added my two to four pesos and had from time to time updated my feelings about that company (Xoom) on LinC. I used Xoom twice and binned them because I honestly think the delays are done on purpose to either give money time to clear or to profit on the delay. Imagine having $1m for 3days permanently or a week if you can delay paying people. The Xoom connection however is with Evan don't think anyone's mentioned it here. Also Pauls processing of Xoom I believe was an issue with his name you will get the same with Western Union. E.g. my payments have to include my middle name. Doesn't mean anything illegal is going on. I want to point out to you and probably Americano that I don't read Evans Blog, but there was some guy on this site when I first came here that was making all kinds of connections based on flimsy evidence and that is the person I took exception with - I believe he was banned on multiple occasions.

Now here it is 2012 and I am on a new site and I am told that anyone that had problems with Xoom must be in the same boat as Paul - he is a crook and was using his Xoom account for illegal activity and thus anyone who uses Xoom must be involved in illegal activity.Nothing wrong with using Xoom except its often unreliable (or used to be haven't used it since 2008) Nothing illegal with using it and that's Evan sort of stuff nothing on this thread about it as there is nothing illegal about using it.Nothing to do with this thread, but it was on this board when I got here.

I have to agree with Art on some of this BS  - This is guilt by association and if you have proof than produce it - if not than stick to your facts - if you guys can't tell the difference and nothing is going to be done about it - then let me know so I can leave this site as well -The facts are there, there is also ongoing conversations which then lead to things getting checked. E.g. Jinky being underage when have sex with Paul has now been confirmed by herself. Personally I don't like sticking peoples documents online for viewing but would say why would Jinky need to lie? Also a lot of the stuff has been witnessed but proof has been long deleted e.g. the Legacy Investments. Also things like JJ's case being filed are documents that are held by the PNP and deportation was shown in SunStar newspaper previously. I could have done a better job of clarifying here.  When I read Art's remarks he is asking why it took you guys so long to come up with all these "facts?" And why the rush to paint Art as being naive or slow, because he questions individual motives behind the posting of all these Facts.  Worse is that because Art does question individual motives, he is further painted as an apologist for Paul, and a supporter.

Deleted your comments regarding Jinky, since you admit they are not factual, and they have nothing to do with what I wrote

I don't want to get into the middle of this, but Art does have a point - Accepting the Facts that have been presented by each of you as being true - what happened in each of your relationships with Paul, to get to the point that you are airing all the dirty laundry now?

Whether Art has asked the question or not I will - however, you don't need to respond to me - these revelations about Paul shows behavior over several years.  Many of you were aware of this behavior for much of that time - if any of you had come forward earlier with the information you had, do you think you may have saved one or more young women from the violence that Paul liked to display on his "girlfriends?"

That aside, why is everyone giving Art such a hard time when he is questioning your motives of coming forth with this information now?

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Lifeisgood, I commend you for your defense of someone you apparently believe is worthy of defending. You would make a good friend.
But I think you would agree that if you see evidence of wrong doing mounting then there would come a time when you too would say 'stuff you, I can no longer tolerate this'.
This brings me to your point about why did they stay friends/ acquaintances with Paul if they knew this is what he was like!
My question is: when do you drop a friend or file for divorce etc. It is usually not after the first indiscretion or even after several wrong doings. Most people stay in there hoping for improvement but only bail out of the relationship when it all becomes too much, will obviously not change or they finally witness something that is much more than they are willing to put up with. Again I repeat, no decent person dumps a friend at the outset of finding things about them that they don't like, otherwise we would be all friendless and divorced!!

Your other point about why they participated in the loan scheme if they knew it was illegal. Well I do know it was stated when promoted that it was legal. I doubt many would invest if the promoter (Paul) had stated that it was illegal. I think the illegality part has is irrelevant anyways with the problem of apparently not supporting those who did invest being the issue.

I agree that there has been some stuff on this thread that is pure speculation and only demeans the core issues.  But so what? Is that not something that is normal on forums? I can recall much debate about posters going off track on LinC.

There are several facts mentioned previously which you can choose to ignore or skirt around, and there is some nonsense too but the core issues are being pursued for very good reasons.

Personally, I don't know nor can comment about Paul's past. It is irrelevant to me. I do know that he provided a forum which has many positive and beneficial aspects to it. I believe he has helped a lot of Linc members also, much to his credit.
What I can NOT accept from him is the arrogant manner with which he treated forum members, rather like a spoilt kid.
But most importantly is the way he apparently treats Filipinas.
My hair stood on end when I read his Linc postings describing his sexual exploits over his then girlfriend. I couldn't believe what I was reading, thinking (hoping) at first that it was a send-up joke. Was he drunk while posting or what! I recall thinking how naive this woman was to get tangled up with someone who would belittle her by this sic exposure. (Realizing later that she was an underage kid explains her position)
Since that time there has been other issues regarding his attitude towards women but the final gong rang for me when it become fact that the partner he described in his sic posts was underage. I don't care about his other indiscretions, this one alone was enough for me.

Finally Lifeisgood, if you are a supporter of Paul's, why don't you (and others) encourage him to come forward and defend himself?
Don't you think it's odd that if (as he stated) he is in the USA and innocent, why not post some proof. And I suggest you ask yourself this: If you was being accused of things that are all lies and you own a substantial media outlet (Linc), would you hide or would you defend yourself, if for no other reason than to back up those who have been supporters.

Mate, I admire your loyalty but do keep an open mind and remember the old saying: If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck.....

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There are a lot of "discrepancies" in all those blogs of Evan Iliadis.

Most of the "Informations" given therein comes from the Forum of Paul Petrea.

More troubling is, that apparently some of those Informations are from hidden forums, even from the moderator forum, apparently the Informers of Evan Iliadis are "Insiders".

Troubling because it breaches a certain "Trust" people have in hidden forums.

Worse, and please allow me this critic, the blogs of Evan Iliadis now have the goal to bring down the Living in Cebu Forum, and this Forum does a similar thing. ( In business it is a "no no" to harm competitors, it leaves a bad taste with "customers" )

Now i am asking, even when the "owner" of Living in Cebu is a crook ( which has to be manifested first, innocent until prooven guilty, right ?)   does that justify that the entire forum has to be "tainted" as a Sexpat forum....

Just look into Evan's "blogs" of shame and you'll find Philipp Rowe, Tim Potter, Steven Matrix, Guenther Vomberg, Bob Ward and others among a gallery of "ugly" guys. Actually the entire "Living in the Philippines" forum is called more or less a "child of Paul Petrea".

They all certainly do not deserve this.

Somewhere here in this Topic it was mentioned that there are facts in the blogs of Mr. Iliadis-. After carefully reading and evaluating i can not find ANY proof of any of the allegations.

This combined with accusations against innocent and honorable people in the very same blogs just lead to one conclusion:

The entire stuff is made up by a Person with severe psychological issues and should not even be mentioned, in fact, everybody should report those blogs immediately ( there is a nice button for that ) and not just ignore them.

Why ? Because tis has to stop, everybody can and will be a victim one day, but then it is too late.
 
Indolence is feeding the evil, we all know this.
 

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QuoteMy hair stood on end when I read his Linc postings describing his sexual exploits over his then girlfriend. I couldn't believe what I was reading, thinking (hoping) at first that it was a send-up joke.

I don't know which posts you're referring too. But there was one topic and a couple posts that still stick in my mind that I couldn't believe I was reading on a so called family oriented site.

The posts that come to mind were the ones where he mentioned how proud he was that he'd persuaded his current girlfriend at the time to shave her pubic hairs and the other one was that he'd finally taken her virginty.

At the time I didn't know he was talking about an underage girl.

Then the last straw for me was the one on the topic on oral sex.

I don't recall who started the topic, but I was sure it wouldn't last long, but to my suprise Paul jumped into the conversation and not only didn't put an end to it but encouraged further disccusion on the subject.


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Quote from: Ozepete on Today at 03:43:00 AMLifeisgood, I commend you for your defense of someone you apparently believe is worthy of defending. You would make a good friend.

I appreciate that.  Thank you kindly.  I don't know Paul so I can't say he is a friend nor am I defending him.  People seem to be posting a lot of stuff and trying to pass it off as fact.

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But I think you would agree that if you see evidence of wrong doing mounting then there would come a time when you too would say 'stuff you, I can no longer tolerate this'.


There seems to be a particular pattern of abuse.  I haven't commented on that at all.  I have commented on all the other things that people are throwing into the wind. 

QuoteThis brings me to your point about why did they stay friends/ acquaintances with Paul if they knew this is what he was like!
My question is: when do you drop a friend or file for divorce etc. It is usually not after the first indiscretion or even after several wrong doings. Most people stay in there hoping for improvement but only bail out of the relationship when it all becomes too much, will obviously not change or they finally witness something that is much more than they are willing to put up with. Again I repeat, no decent person dumps a friend at the outset of finding things about them that they don't like, otherwise we would be all friendless and divorced!!

I agree!  The reason I stated that was because of people trying to shame others into leaving the Linc forum.  Basically, if they don't believe certain comments or continue to use the forum they are supporting Paul's evil empire.  Seem hypocritical to me which is why I brought up the point.

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Your other point about why they participated in the loan scheme if they knew it was illegal. Well I do know it was stated when promoted that it was legal. I doubt many would invest if the promoter (Paul) had stated that it was illegal. I think the illegality part has is irrelevant anyways with the problem of apparently not supporting those who did invest being the issue.


I am sure many would have been ignorant.  Maybe even Paul was ignorant to the legality of the business.  That doesn't make him an intentional scammer like others are trying to say. 

I have been in business for a long time.  Sometimes businesses just cave in.  I have had people purchase my software when they knew there was no refunds once installed (says it on the sales page) only to demand a refund and cry scam if they don't get it.

I have seen how people can be charged up emotionally and throw around terms like scammer easily.

QuoteI agree that there has been some stuff on this thread that is pure speculation and only demeans the core issues.  But so what? Is that not something that is normal on forums? I can recall much debate about posters going off track on LinC.

I said the same thing and people claimed they were facts and not speculation.  Speculate if you want to but don't try to pass it off as facts was my point.

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Finally Lifeisgood, if you are a supporter of Paul's, why don't you (and others) encourage him to come forward and defend himself?
Don't you think it's odd that if (as he stated) he is in the USA and innocent, why not post some proof. And I suggest you ask yourself this: If you was being accused of things that are all lies and you own a substantial media outlet (Linc), would you hide or would you defend yourself, if for no other reason than to back up those who have been supporters.

I am not a supporter.  Just because I don't buy everything said online doesn't mean I support someone.  Like you said, there is plenty of speculation going on and it is being passed off as fact.

Personally, I think Paul did the right thing by not responding.  I know I wouldn't bother defending myself based on all the speculation.  First it would be the abuse stuff, then it would be the loan stuff, then it would be income from the forums stuff and so on...  It wouldn't stop because certain people seem to be emotionally charged.   

Look at this thread.  40 some odd pages and if anyone questions the comments get cast into a particular category. 

QuoteMate, I admire your loyalty but do keep an open mind and remember the old saying: If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck.....

Thanks mate.  It isn't loyalty since I don't know Paul.  I just understand how these things get out of hand which I believe this thread has.  I would have said the same things if it was someone else.
 
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Quote from: Terp54 on Today at 04:22:12 AM
QuoteMy hair stood on end when I read his Linc postings describing his sexual exploits over his then girlfriend. I couldn't believe what I was reading, thinking (hoping) at first that it was a send-up joke.

I don't know which posts you're referring too. But there was one topic and a couple posts that still stick in my mind that I couldn't believe I was reading on a so called family oriented site.

The posts that come to mind were the ones where he mentioned how proud he was that he'd persuaded his current girlfriend at the time to shave her pubic hairs and the other one was that he'd finally taken her virginty.

At the time I didn't know he was talking about an underage girl.

Then the last straw for me was the one on the topic on oral sex.

I don't recall who started the topic, but I was sure it wouldn't last long, but to my suprise Paul jumped into the conversation and not only didn't put an end to it but encouraged further disccusion on the subject.

You got that right Terp. Those were the comments that sickened me too.
And good that you too was able to comment about those postings without mentioning the then underage girls name. She appears to be a used and abused underage person and  I hope that future posters here will also not use her name. Hopefully she can move on and find what she and any Filipina deserves within a good relationship.

 

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