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I don't want to see LinC fail or closed, but there's one problem.  All of the money generated by LinC goes directly to Paul.  Paul lives off his income from LinC and now he is running and hiding with that same money.  Therefore, if you contribute money to LinC or help it make money in any way then you are helping finance a man who is on the run from the law.  Helping to finance someone running from the law is considered aiding and abeding in some countries, which means that person could be charged and do jail time too.  If you want to help finance someone who is hiding from law enforcement then what does that say about you?

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Quote from: don_masbate on Yesterday at 05:23:17 AM.....While Shadow appears to be hurt about what was said, let's face reality here. People that stay on Paul's forum and openly post on it, knowing full well what he is like as a person then as far as I am concerned, they are no better than him.

A fascinating word, "hurt". I wonder if the busker who had his guitar torn to splinters (by a boastful Shadow's dog) felt hurt.

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Quote from: Americano on Yesterday at 06:17:46 AM
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Quote from: Adventureguy on April 23, 2012, 12:47:27 PMI'm not defending Paul in any way here, but it seems there is way too much attention being placed on his whereabouts and goings on. It's starting to smell like a gossip column.

The 1st 500 posts were not but now.........!!! When WAS the last FACT  :-\

You must have my name on your ignore list because I posted a fact yesterday at 8:38PM.  Paul's last known girlfriend has been located and Paul is not living with her.  That's a fact.  Its hard to get new facts about a person until someone gives his location.  He can hide but not forever.  Sooner or later someone will report his location to someone on this forum or to law enforcement.  Either way he's going to jail.  Hey that's another fact, but its not new.  Paul knew he was going to jail, that's why he's on the run.

That was more of a fact relating to Jinky than Paul. I don't think anyone thought Paul was living with her.

The point is, as you said yourself above & therefore to my point of the thread starting to be more Tsismis now than anything useful
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Quote from: Americano on Yesterday at 08:11:34 AMI don't want to see LinC fail or closed, but there's one problem.  All of the money generated by LinC goes directly to Paul.  Paul lives off his income from LinC and now he is running and hiding with that same money.  Therefore, if you contribute money to LinC or help it make money in any way then you are helping finance a man who is on the run from the law.  Helping to finance someone running from the law is considered aiding and abeding in some countries, which means that person could be charged and do jail time too.  If you want to help finance someone who is hiding from law enforcement then what does that say about you?

How do you know he is pocketing the money from the forum and not donating it to charity?

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I don't think anyone knows for FACT what Paul does with his forum money but what is known is how he likes to squeeze out the pesos for advertising in the past (Can't confirm recently as I have nothing to do with LinC for a few years. Only used it for people PMing me or people sending me links refering to specific threads). But I am sure Bob Ward can tell you how much Paul was asking for having a link in his Signature previously. Paul Whiteway pays for advertising and the site is pretty full of adverts for lots of other things. Yet I have never heard Paul mention ANY charities that he gives money to only saying he gives all the profits to charity. Which is a bit surprising that none of the charities on his forum that have threads have mentioned regular donations from the forum. You would think a forum advertising charities would actually be supporting one it was promoting wouldn't you?

Personally Paul told me he was paying someone P60,000 a month to deal with the forum and other sites for the charity donations yet at no point did he say which charity and P60,000 wouldn't leave a lot for the charity! Why would you offer up P60,000 for a local worker to manage funds? I don't know anyone who would trust someone on a regular basis with large amounts of money without having any safety nets in process to monitor the flow of cash. I certainly can't see why anyone would pay someone P60k to process funds as well as LinC's earnings are probably around that figure total.

As regards Tsismis (Gossip) I think Americano confirming that Jinky isn't with Paul isn't gossip as it also ties into proof of her being only 16 when she started sexual activity with Paul from her own account. As there was a debate over her age which she confirmed herself she's only recently turned 18. The smoke of lies stems from misinformation fed out of Paul's mouth that gave different turns of events and changing believed facts. Some people dismiss them as they heard it first hand from Paul but Jinky is only just 18 for example and not Paul's version of events. The giving to charity stuff is a typical example where there seems to be no facts just Paul saying he does it. Same as his income from the U.S. has had multiple versions I have heard from different people :-
Fell off an electrical pylon as a lineman - receiving disability cheques.
Hires out a fleet of trucks in the U.S. for regular payments.
Received an inheritance from his father.
Receiving a 2nd pension (I think he may be refering to social security cheques as his first pension).

Only when people discuss things jointly can things be separated into facts or fiction as well as who has been spinning bull. Most people don't know where Paul is so why would you assume Jinky wasn't there? I've never seen Paul sober and several people have mentioned Paul's state of health he isn't dragging a girl along just for comfort he'll be using her as a maid as well as 101 other things.
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Matt, that is the whole problem with this thread and why it is hard to take any of this serious.

This thread is mainly opinions, theories and half truths.  This doesn't help your case but makes it look like a wacko conspiracy.

Hardly a fact driven reality type of stuff here like Bob suggested.  The more that is posted the more it looks like a soap opera.

You got some guy with a blog starting this thread that has some serious issues.  He pretty much attacks everyone that is associated with Paul regardless of being guilty or not.

You got people speculating about things they cannot prove like the income from the forums, being in Thailand, moving to Cambodia, trying to figure out ip address from emails, etc...

You got some Don guy who wants everyone to stop associating with Linc.  If they don't then he tries to shame them and even will attempt to get the mods in legal trouble for things they never done.  Talk about controlling and abusive behavior. 

You got Americano...  Oh boy!  This guy had no problem staying on Linc when he supposedly witnessed Paul's behavior.  Not only that but he vacationed with the guy knowing Jinky's age.  No problem...  Well until something happened between him, his wife and Paul.

Of course, nothing has been said about where he was during this event.  According to a blog, who has screen shots of his wife's facebook conversation, he was watching to whole thing.   How could a man watch his wife get assaulted and do nothing?  Why hasn't Americano talked about his participation.  He had no problem talking about other portions of this event so I don't buy the whole court case keeping him from telling more.  Instead, he tells parts of the story which is just as bad as lying.

Now, Americano didn't have a problem until his wife and him got into an altercation with Paul.  Now he has a problem with Jinky's age...  Now he has a problem with people using Linc... 

I don't have a dog in this fight.  I haven't met anyone from the forums.  I am just showing you how bad this thread looks to an outsider.

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Quote from: lifeisgood on Yesterday at 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: Americano on Yesterday at 08:11:34 AMI don't want to see LinC fail or closed, but there's one problem.  All of the money generated by LinC goes directly to Paul.  Paul lives off his income from LinC and now he is running and hiding with that same money.  Therefore, if you contribute money to LinC or help it make money in any way then you are helping finance a man who is on the run from the law.  Helping to finance someone running from the law is considered aiding and abeding in some countries, which means that person could be charged and do jail time too.  If you want to help finance someone who is hiding from law enforcement then what does that say about you?

How do you know he is pocketing the money from the forum and not donating it to charity?

Mr. Post: 1  I know he is pocketing the money because he told me in person that he lives off the money donated and earned from ads on Linc since he lost his Social Security Disability.  If you believe he is donating it to charity then name one charity that can be contacted to verify his donations.  Don't you realize that if he was donating to any charity he would be bragging about his donations and naming the charity or charities?

When my wife and I met with Jinky this week she confessed without even asking her and without Paul being present, that she was 16 when she came to live with Paul and started having sex with him.  And, that she just turned 18 on April 20th.  Well, I guess the Paul supporters won't believe me so I will get a copy of her NSO Birth Certificate the next time we see her.

For those who still don't believe Jinky just turned 18, I invite you to meet her in person with her NSO Birth Certificate in hand.  Just tell me who will attend and I will set the date and time.  Ok doubters, put up or shut up.
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Quote from: Americano on Yesterday at 10:52:02 AM
Mr. Post: 1  I know he is pocketing the money because he told me in person that he lives off the money donated and earned from ads on Linc since he lost his Social Security Disability.  If you believe he is donating it to charity then name one charity that can be contacted to verify his donations.  Don't you realize that if he was donating to any charity he would be bragging about his donations and naming the charity or charities?

When my wife and I met with Jinky this week she confessed without even asking her and without Paul being present, that she was 16 when she came to live with Paul and started having sex with him.  And, that she just turned 18 on April 20th.  Well, I guess the Paul supporters won't believe me so I will get a copy of her NSO Birth Certificate the next time we see her.

I have the same userid on both forums.  Maybe you can write up some conspiracy theory about my participation in this thread.

This is what I do know.

I donated money to help purchase flowers for Big Rob's (whom I never met) funeral.  This was from the Linc community.  Paul purchased those flowers and had them delivered.  Pictures were posted of those flowers and I believe Bob knows everything about that situation.

My first dealing with Paul was on the level.  He did what he said he was going to do with the money he collected.

My second dealing on the forum came last night.  I was able to donate money to help a dog get medical treatment.  I wouldn't have been able to help this dog if it wasn't for Linc.  Paul allowed them to post for help and I was able to help.

So far I have no complaints besides Allan over moderating.  haha


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Quote from: MattWilkie on Yesterday at 06:59:07 AMSo would say regarding the Mods on LinC just judge them by their posting and actions as the association with direct links isn't as obvious. Also many know Paul for a long period of time from the internet version and not in person. Its also why some people have met Paul and then stopped using the forums once they found out his internet version isn't him in reality.
In addition to what I said above regarding LinC's Staff, I am highly surprised and dismayed by the actions of its Admins along with some of its Moderators - and especially the Global Moderator known as Headshot. The two US-based Administrators are both married to Filipinas as is Headshot. By enforcing new rules preventing the discussion of that Forum's owner and his many illegal and immoral activities, they are not only imposing a further curb on the freedom of expression but they are doing a great disservice to their own members and visitors - and especially their new members - who are hood-winked into believing that Petrea is a fine upstanding pillar of society, which we all know is not the case.

As far as I am concerned, if they had an ounce of decency they'd do what I and others have done - leave the site and get themselves banned in the process so that they're not then associated with it as Staff members.

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Quote from: lifeisgood on Yesterday at 10:59:55 AM
Quote from: Americano on Yesterday at 10:52:02 AM
Mr. Post: 1  I know he is pocketing the money because he told me in person that he lives off the money donated and earned from ads on Linc since he lost his Social Security Disability.  If you believe he is donating it to charity then name one charity that can be contacted to verify his donations.  Don't you realize that if he was donating to any charity he would be bragging about his donations and naming the charity or charities?

When my wife and I met with Jinky this week she confessed without even asking her and without Paul being present, that she was 16 when she came to live with Paul and started having sex with him.  And, that she just turned 18 on April 20th.  Well, I guess the Paul supporters won't believe me so I will get a copy of her NSO Birth Certificate the next time we see her.

I have the same userid on both forums.  Maybe you can write up some conspiracy theory about my participation in this thread.

This is what I do know.

I donated money to help purchase flowers for Big Rob's (whom I never met) funeral.  This was from the Linc community.  Paul purchased those flowers and had them delivered.  Pictures were posted of those flowers and I believe Bob knows everything about that situation.

My first dealing with Paul was on the level.  He did what he said he was going to do with the money he collected.

My second dealing on the forum came last night.  I was able to donate money to help a dog get medical treatment.  I wouldn't have been able to help this dog if it wasn't for Linc.  Paul allowed them to post for help and I was able to help.

So far I have no complaints besides Allan over moderating.  haha

I was with Paul the day he went to Tabanok to buy flowers for Big Rob's funeral.  Everyone knows he bought flowers, but does anyone know the total amount donated and the total amount Paul spent on the flowers.  Did Paul spend all of the donated money on flowers or was this another opportunity for Paul to make a profit?

I don't know anything about a dog who needs help on a forum but I hope he's not in the Philippines.  It very well could be another scam.  Since you are new at forums, you may not know about the many scams that have been on forums in recent years.  Scammers can think up a thousand ways to get your money.

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Quote from: lifeisgood on Yesterday at 10:47:49 AMMatt, that is the whole problem with this thread and why it is hard to take any of this serious.

This thread is mainly opinions, theories and half truths.  This doesn't help your case but makes it look like a wacko conspiracy.
I'll stop you right there. You're a new member of this site and may not have read all the 590 or so messages this thread contains. Yes there's a certain amount of speculation but we - the Forum Staff - have tried to keep the topic focused on fact. And there's plenty of it, should you choose to read it. Much of it relates to the lies and deliberate misinformation promulgated by LinC's owner.

That said, we try very hard to allow our members to have as much freedom to say what they wish to say as is legally permissible and having due regard to considerations of good taste etc. You are not permitted to post a message about this topic on LinC where there is a campaign of cover-up and that is FACT because I read both Admin Steve's and Headshot's posts that laid-down the law. Here there is transparency of a kind that use to be present on LinC but has been eroded by its over-zealous Staff to protect its beleaguered owner.
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Quote from: Americano on Yesterday at 11:25:09 AMI don't know anything about a dog who needs help on a forum but I hope he's not in the Philippines.  It very well could be another scam.  Since you are new at forums, you may not know about the many scams that have been on forums in recent years.  Scammers can think up a thousand ways to get your money.
If money was sent to the Charity that Jay and Kar Wren are involved with, more or less full time, then I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that it would have been used for the purpose for which they petitioned. I know them both having met them on several occasions and believe them to be honest and decent.

But if the money was sent to Petrea, all bets are off!

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Quote from: Mark on Yesterday at 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: lifeisgood on Yesterday at 10:47:49 AMMatt, that is the whole problem with this thread and why it is hard to take any of this serious.

This thread is mainly opinions, theories and half truths.  This doesn't help your case but makes it look like a wacko conspiracy.
I'll stop you right there. You're a new member of this site and may not have read all the 590 or so messages this thread contains. Yes there's a certain amount of speculation but we - the Forum Staff - have tried to keep the topic focused on fact. And there's plenty of it, should you choose to read it.

That said, we try very hard to allow our members to have as much freedom to say what they wish to say as is legally permissible and having due regard to considerations of good taste etc. You are not permitted to post a message about this topic on LinC where there is a campaign of cover-up. Here there is transparency of a kind that use to be present on LinC but has been eroded by its over-zealous Staff to protect its beleaguered owner.

I have read the whole thread.

Facts are normally something that can be verified with proof.  I see a lot of stuff in this thread that people don't seem to be able to prove.

I would hardly say telling people they are bad because they don't do what you want and leave Linc as hardly a fact.  That is controlling behavior.

Why are my messages being moderated for content before posting? 

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Quote from: Americano on Yesterday at 11:25:09 AM
I was with Paul the day he went to Tabanok to buy flowers for Big Rob's funeral.  Everyone knows he bought flowers, but does anyone know the total amount donated and the total amount Paul spent on the flowers.  Did Paul spend all of the donated money on flowers or was this another opportunity for Paul to make a profit?

I don't know anything about a dog who needs help on a forum but I hope he's not in the Philippines.  It very well could be another scam.  Since you are new at forums, you may not know about the many scams that have been on forums in recent years.  Scammers can think up a thousand ways to get your money.

You made my point beautifully.  You have no proof that Paul took money from the funeral donations but decided to cast aspersions anyway. 

I am not new to the forums.  I just don't post a lot. I donated to the Island Rescue.  If they are a scam then they are a very elaborate one. haha

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Well lifeisgood, I have spent several days with Paul so I know what the man really is.  You only know what he has told you on his forum so you know nothing about him.  You know Paul by his many lies on his forum, not by being with him in person.  Its two completely different things.

And for proving anything on a forum, you can't prove who you are on a forum.  If you post a copy of your Drivers License and Passport someone will say those are not yours and how can you prove they are?
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