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Recent reports of Paul's thoughts on moving to Cambodia made my mind up on visiting the Cambodian Embassy in our home state. We had been visiting friends and then went to the Cambodian Embassy on 16th street.

We made an appointment and managed to speak to a couple of their high ranking officials. We handed over a folder containing over 75 pages of documents on Mr Petrea and other sex pats in the PI who may to visit their country. documents that I and others had carefully obtained, some from open sites, others from more private sources, not all legal! Copies of photos He has taken, details of his assaults with photos, pastes from his forum where he boasts of sex with Jinky were all passed on. We spent nearly an hour explaining Petrea's activities over the years to the officials. They seem astonished that this allowed to go on and assured they would take all steps to insure this did not happen in their country. As a safeguard, we also mailed the same documents to the http://www.immigration.gov.kh/ Just to mzake sure.

 Evan, while his intentions against this man may have been good was wrong to go after other members and post up public information on them. 6 years ago I witnessed Petrea's violence towards females and when I challenged him on it all I received was a foul mouthed reply and he staggered off. It has amazed me over the years watching his friends stick by him despite his attitude towards filipinas. Most of us love and respect them, he assaults and abuses them and humiliates them, yet his loyal followers will stick with him as can been seen on this forum too.

 And just for your information, Paul does read members private messages to others on his LIC forum. A friend some time ago offered assistance to a newcomer on the forusm who needed help with a visa application. He received a nasty e-mail from Paul telling him to leave the matter alone as this was his friends (Shadow) area of expertize and he would help him for a much overpriced fee despite free help being offered.

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Quote from: don_masbate on April 22, 2012, 12:30:58 AMRecent reports of Paul's thoughts on moving to Cambodia made my mind up on visiting the Cambodian Embassy in our home state. We had been visiting friends and then went to the Cambodian Embassy on 16th street.

We made an appointment and managed to speak to a couple of their high ranking officials. We handed over a folder containing over 75 pages of documents on Mr Petrea and other sex pats in the PI who may to visit their country. documents that I and others had carefully obtained, some from open sites, others from more private sources, not all legal! Copies of photos He has taken, details of his assaults with photos, pastes from his forum where he boasts of sex with Jinky were all passed on. We spent nearly an hour explaining Petrea's activities over the years to the officials. They seem astonished that this allowed to go on and assured they would take all steps to insure this did not happen in their country. As a safeguard, we also mailed the same documents to the http://www.immigration.gov.kh/ Just to mzake sure.

I'm pretty dammed sure Paul reads this Forum just as some of those who still support him do. Well he'll now know that he likely won't be exactly welcomed with open arms should he move to Cambodia and that's probably a good thing as far as the womenfolk of that country are concerned.

QuoteEvan, while his intentions against this man may have been good was wrong to go after other members and post up public information on them. 6 years ago I witnessed Petrea's violence towards females and when I challenged him on it all I received was a foul mouthed reply and he staggered off. It has amazed me over the years watching his friends stick by him despite his attitude towards filipinas. Most of us love and respect them, he assaults and abuses them and humiliates them, yet his loyal followers will stick with him as can been seen on this forum too.

As far as I am concerned, he's a lying hypocrite. He says one thing on his Forum but does exactly the opposite in real life.

QuoteAnd just for your information, Paul does read members private messages to others on his LIC forum. A friend some time ago offered assistance to a newcomer on the forusm who needed help with a visa application. He received a nasty e-mail from Paul telling him to leave the matter alone as this was his friends (Shadow) area of expertize and he would help him for a much overpriced fee despite free help being offered.

Thank you for confirming what I already knew! He strenuously denies this, of course, but if you do any research into what is and and what isn't possible with Forum software, then you'll come to the inescapable conclusion that this is yet another thing he lies to his members about. There are several ways that a Forum owner can access Private Messages and these apply especially to the Forum software used to power LinC:
  • There is a modification available for that software that is specifically designed to allow Admins/Owners to read members' Private Messages - and any attachments - without either the sender or recipient being aware.
  • All PMs are stored in one or more database tables as plain text[1] so the table(s) can simply be dumped and inspected
  • It is possible to write a PHP script which is executed each time a PM is posted which auto-forwards a copy of the PM to either an email address or to one of his own accounts as a PM
  • It is also possible to set a "cron" job on the server which interrogates the PM tables at regular intervals and extracts the vital data and sends that as an email
Paul usually claims he was sent a copy of the offending PM by someone. He has seen a copy of the PM but not because it was sent to him by any member!

Administrator Comment I want to make it quite clear that we take our members' privacy very seriously[1] and we do not read PMs as a matter of course. The only time we would read a member's PM is if the recipient reported its content by clicking on the "report" button at the foot of each message.
 1. We have also implemented other privacy protection measures recently such as the requirement for all new visitors to this site to accept the cookies this site uses.
 1. That applies to LinC, this site does NOT store Private Messages as human-readable text
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Administrator Comment Don't want to offend people here but to be honest PM's aren't really of interest to the moderation or admin team here unless someone has reported it as a abusive. LinC however as Don_Masbate has explained it comes down to money. Being able to intercept PM's allows manipulation for personal profit. On top of this Paul being aware of what his users are upto. Here its an open forum generally you can say most things on the forum, doesn't have to be between a small group of people. Also there is no profiteering as the forum is also promoting business for both Foreigner and Filipino's in fact we encourage starting threads on what you do to help grow your business. All for nothing in return except an active forum and a community that believes in helping each other.
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« Reply #573 on: Yesterday at 04:06:03 AM »
Administrator Comment "Shadow" (Larry) and his business are not topics for discussion in this thread. If you wish to continue that conversation, you can do it here - Boxing Shadows.

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Back on topic - Want to add this into the mix a bit as often there seems to be multiple versions of the same stories come about which is why its worth separating from those that heard to those that were there at the time (This is regarding most things discussed not just one topic). You see Lloyd for example a friend of Evan's will spin and weave conflicts on purpose. E.g will pick up on people who have a bit of friction and use their pseudo's elsewhere to blow things up a bit to create arguments. Often the people involved aren't aware that the person they originally had a dispute with isn't the same person who's now pulling their leg trying to wind them up. This happened between me and Tom of another forum where he thought I had said and did something when in fact I wasn't even aware of what he was talking about. Contacting him directly resolved the issue.

In the same way since this thread started other information comes in on a regular basis and is eventually dismissed as lies or fabricated at best. So would say if your not sure about something CONFIRM THAT FACT. E.g I HEARD rather than I KNOW as third person you may not be able to confirm something on topic but posting it someone else may be able to fill in the gaps because they were there and know what happened.

An example of the headaches it causes is shown above if its not clarified as no amount of fees has been mentioned for visa processing yet some are saying over priced and others say not. Simple answer to that question would be does anyone use the visa services as its only them that can make the decision on cost. Also bearing in mind I am sure the costs will be "local cost" and not tourist rates. Haven't heard anyone gripe about boats at Mactan charging upto P6,000 per person when boat hire is about P3,500 for the whole thing(Maybe Bob can confirm a rough rate). Saying its just overpriced without any example is pointless though as its unfair on the person who does the service as he cannot argue his corner at the same time is why a lot of businesses avoid using forums.

I KNOW Gustivan's wine prices are over the top P1,350 for a cheap bottle of wine, and I THINK it was empty for that reason as no doubt the meal prices are similarly inflated. The bar area and restaurant were completely deserted. Whilst at the Banana Leaf the place was at least 70% full but they don't carry any alcohol (as my friends wanted a glass of wine to finish off the evening).

Yes the last section seems off topic but its just to give an example of why I think things are over priced and an example of it as well as a comparison with another restaurant on the same evening.

In the same way confirming facts relating to Paul has to go down the same route as simply it starts ending up looking like Evan's blog otherwise full of a comment or fact spun completely out of context and into a new story removing anything of real truth or value.

Paul is using a proxy and is telling people he's in Thailand but like his road trip to the U.S. where is the proof? Because I get the feeling there are people like Lloyd feeding information to Paul and Evan for whatever reason but in different versions.

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Here's a fact that I know, Paul and Jinky are not living together.  Jinky's new boyfriend had read on this forum that Paul and Jinky could still be together so he wanted to know the truth.  Through PM's he started trusting me and finally gave me Jinky's location and directions how to get there.  Saturday my wife, Manilyn made a surprise visit to Jinky's apartment.  Jinky wasn't there but the neighbors came out of their apartments and told Manilyn that Jinky lives there with her younger sister.  Sunday Manilyn and I went to her apartment again.  Jinky was very happy to see us.  Her little sister was there too.  There were no men's clothes or things in her apartment so I'm sure no man is living there.

Jinky doesn't remember the exact date that her and Paul were together last, but she started communicating with her new boyfriend in the USA sometime in January.  Today I saw him on a webcam while Jinky was chatting with him.  He said I could share what I learned about Jinky but not tell anyone her location and I agreed to keep it to myself.  Her location doesn't matter anyway.

Jinky told us what she knows about Paul's location, but like the rest of us she can only guess because she doesn't know for sure.  From what she said I think your guess is just as good as hers.  I didn't ask her if she believed Paul's lies that he was in Georgia, Florida and North Carolina, but she believes he's gone to Thailand now.  She received a text from a Thailand phone number but Paul could have asked someone in Thailand to send a text to Jinky just to help hide his location.  Therefore, if you haven't seen Paul in Thailand then you don't know he's in Thailand.

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I'm not defending Paul in any way here, but it seems there is way too much attention being placed on his whereabouts and goings on. It's starting to smell like a gossip column.

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Quote from: Adventureguy on Yesterday at 12:47:27 PMI'm not defending Paul in any way here, but it seems there is way too much attention being placed on his whereabouts and goings on. It's starting to smell like a gossip column.

Nope! It smells like the truth with a bit of reality thrown in for good measure!

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Quote from: Adventureguy on Yesterday at 12:47:27 PMI'm not defending Paul in any way here, but it seems there is way too much attention being placed on his whereabouts and goings on. It's starting to smell like a gossip column.
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               The BIBLE

 1. Romans 1:29

      They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,

      Romans 1:28-30 - Romans 1
 
 2. 1 Timothy 5:13

      Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to.


      1 Timothy 5:12-14 - 1 Timothy 5

               
Romans 1:28-30 

28:-   Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

    29:- They have become filled with every kind of wickedness,  evil,  greed and depravity.
They are full of envy, strife, deceit and malice.

They are gossips,
 
    30:- slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their priests;
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Quote from: Adventureguy on Yesterday at 12:47:27 PMI'm not defending Paul in any way here, but it seems there is way too much attention being placed on his whereabouts and goings on. It's starting to smell like a gossip column.

A lot of attention is placed on his whereabouts because he has a criminal charge against him for physically abusing a woman in the Philippines.  He wasn't man enough to face the charges against him in court so he ran away to hide.  And, investors of a money making scheme that he is part of want to know where their money is.  He refused to answer their questions and he got out of town before any of the investors came knocking on his door.   So what is wrong with sharing information that could help locate him?  He's a man on the run because he knows he's guilty and he will be going to jail.  Most of us only want justice to be done.

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Quote from: Adventureguy on Yesterday at 12:47:27 PMI'm not defending Paul in any way here, but it seems there is way too much attention being placed on his whereabouts and goings on. It's starting to smell like a gossip column.

The 1st 500 posts were not but now.........!!! When WAS the last FACT  :-\
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In relation to my previous post, it was not so much to have a go at Shadow for what ever he charges (whatever that maybe), but to let people know that Paul does read people's private messages. This he has denied but as we know he is a liar While Shadow appears to be hurt about what was said, let's face reality here. People that stay on Paul's forum and openly post on it, knowing full well what he is like as a person then as far as I am concerned, they are no better than him. Would you let him date your 15/16 year old daughter, a raging alcoholic with sick perversions. someone who wants to go out with girls that look no more than 13 or 14 at the most? Have people that are complaining on this forum actually spoken out against him on his forum?

You (Shadow) complain about being offended on this forum yet you have no problem continuing to post on Paul's forum. If it was titled "Looking for young girls in the Philippines.com, would you still be a member there?

I've been living on and off in the Philippines since 1990, i love the country and respect the ordinary people there. We too have helped numerous people with their visa forms never charging anything. It just amazes me that people who want to get married cannot fill these in themselves, but we still help. I also have niece's around the age that guys like Petrea stalk, that's why I want him and his kind out of the country, you either detest him or support him, I don't see any middle ground.

When I return there in a couple of weeks time I will hand the same file that I gave to the Cambodian authorities to Mar Roxas. I will list the names of his mods that support him, from Headshot to Alan S in England and Broden in the US. I hope the authorities interview them to find out what they know about the photos that Petrea kept on his site and his personal computer.

That's all I have to say on the matter. For me this matter is closed but I hope more people read this forum and learn what Petrea is all about and leave his sites. 


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Quote from: The Stig on Today at 04:01:38 AM
Quote from: Adventureguy on Yesterday at 12:47:27 PMI'm not defending Paul in any way here, but it seems there is way too much attention being placed on his whereabouts and goings on. It's starting to smell like a gossip column.

The 1st 500 posts were not but now.........!!! When WAS the last FACT  :-\

You must have my name on your ignore list because I posted a fact yesterday at 8:38PM.  Paul's last known girlfriend has been located and Paul is not living with her.  That's a fact.  Its hard to get new facts about a person until someone gives his location.  He can hide but not forever.  Sooner or later someone will report his location to someone on this forum or to law enforcement.  Either way he's going to jail.  Hey that's another fact, but its not new.  Paul knew he was going to jail, that's why he's on the run.

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Quote from: don_masbate on Today at 05:23:17 AMIn relation to my previous post, it was not so much to have a go at Shadow for what ever he charges (whatever that maybe), but to let people know that Paul does read people's private messages. This he has denied but as we know he is a liar While Shadow appears to be hurt about what was said, let's face reality here. People that stay on Paul's forum and openly post on it, knowing full well what he is like as a person then as far as I am concerned, they are no better than him. Would you let him date your 15/16 year old daughter, a raging alcoholic with sick perversions. someone who wants to go out with girls that look no more than 13 or 14 at the most? Have people that are complaining on this forum actually spoken out against him on his forum?
They wouldn't be able to - well they could try but their posts will be quickly deleted and they'd face a possible ban or suspension of posting privileges. Headshot recently posted a message to that effect quite recently.

QuoteYou (Shadow) complain about being offended on this forum yet you have no problem continuing to post on Paul's forum. If it was titled "Looking for young girls in the Philippines.com, would you still be a member there?
Have you considered the possibility that because LinC is/was a well-visited site that Shadow would have a source of potential clients and that whilst he may feel revulsion at some of its owner's antics, he ignores that aspect and simply concentrates on helping people and, possibly, getting the odd client?

QuoteWhen I return there in a couple of weeks time I will hand the same file that I gave to the Cambodian authorities to Mar Roxas. I will list the names of his mods that support him, from Headshot to Alan S in England and Broden in the US. I hope the authorities interview them to find out what they know about the photos that Petrea kept on his site and his personal computer.
Many of LinC's Mods are good decent people some of whom don't even visit the site that often, let alone get involved in its politics or its owner's actions. Take Daisy, she has been listed as a moderator for years and although she does post - although far less recently - she has never done any actual moderating and I very much doubt that she condones Paul's actions but he does provide a Forum for her charity group. But I do agree with you that there are some who by their actions are seemingly, albeit by implication, condoning him and his various nefarious activities. But it's highly unlikely that Mar Roxas could do much - certainly in the case of those staff members resident abroad - since the site itself isn't breaking any Philippine Laws. Or is it?

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A point I want to make here regarding LinC I have heard several users say they won't leave it because of what its "owner does" as they see its ok to use the forum for information and the users on the site. Also guilt by association is a dangerous thing as people can see the way Evan writes, the loosest of meetings or association suddenly become the best friend of Paul because it makes it easier to write gossip. The "Tim" dispute over software on here as the reason he was forced to leave yet I don't think anyone has ever mentioned anything negative about Tim's software except for Evan himself. Generally people either use it or don't and it wasn't the reason he was banned.

So would say regarding the Mods on LinC just judge them by their posting and actions as the association with direct links isn't as obvious. Also many know Paul for a long period of time from the internet version and not in person. Its also why some people have met Paul and then stopped using the forums once they found out his internet version isn't him in reality.
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