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Quote from: 'tiger31' pid='3397' dateline='1331535317'
is davaeho on this site yet if so send it to him first as he has lawyer back ground just to be on the safe side ,would,nt like to see your case ruined by something that you,ve said .


Thanks for the suggestion which may be good but I don't know him and I assume he didn't practice law in the Philippines. The laws are different here from his home country.

Anyway, if Paul doesn't come out of hiding and face Manilyn in court then it doesn't matter what anyone says or knows, he will be found guilty without a hearing. They probably can't do that in davaeho's conutry.

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Davaoeno taught commercial law in Canada; he is/was not a lawyer here.


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Why do I post on forums about Paul Petrea?  So hundreds if not thousands of foreigners living in the Philippines and else where will know he is a wanted man for the crimes he has comitted and one of them will see him somewhere and report it.

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Twelve calls were made to the Immigration and ten were ring outs.  Two were answered, one by a man who said he was a guard and Mr ugarte wasn't there and the other by someone who didn't speak I dont know what to make of that.  

Nine calls were made to the school in Negros and one to a resident of the town the school is in to find out if there was another number for the school all were intercepted by an operator saying network is busy.   I might ring tomorrow I dont know I've had enough.  

This is why I was hard on you Americano.  I think your enthusiasm to convict Paul outruns your accuracy.  I felt earlier in the thread that in the rush to denounce Paul some people including you were making rash and untrue statements.  The PM issue for one.

Americano, you started a thread called Another big Lie which was merged into this one.  In that one you stated that Alan saying all surplus money above costs went to charity was a big lie, a couple of times you said Paul lied about donating to charity.   post 381.  When I asked you to verify that you came back with Paul said he made $700 a month and never mentioned giving to charities.  Thats not the same as lying about giving to charities.  You said a few times Paul giving to charities was a lie. Thats a personal belief you have, a belief that is not founded on any factual evidence provided by you or anyone else at the moment.  So Alan and Paul are lying.   Its still unverified.  

When Tim challenged your comments your reply to him was a denial of your previous statements, post 387, you said "I didn't say Paul didn't donate to charities or school." Which contradicts your assertions in that Paul lied about donating to charity post 381.

You said in another post that Paul banned members and deleted posts in Bob Wards goodbye thread.  You stated that Paul left it open for 24 hours in order to find and ban people saying negative things about him.  You are confusing beliefs with facts Norseman refuted your belief in post 370 it was him and Steve not Paul and Norseman said there were no bans that day or following.    

I do believe that Paul messed with your status other people have similar experiences and I believe he did it to stop you saying damning things about him I accept that belief.  

I do believe in your enthusiasm to damn Paul you and others are sacrificing accuracy and its hurting your case at least with me and other critical readers for the ones who except belief as fact there is nothing to say about them they go where the wind blows.   Confusing beliefs as facts brings into question all statements.   If Paul is guilty of all you say it will come out eventually.  

I'm tired of this I'm tired of people mocking me and mixing me in with Paul for asking questions and asking of you and others more accountability in your assertions.    Now you know why I was hard on you thank you for being respectful and having some dignity.

I wont ask you to prove anything else I will let life sort it out.  You don't have to publish your statement to defend yourself with me anymore there is enough circumstantial evidence to infer somethings are rotten with Paul.  Time will bring the rest out in the light.

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..........and on that note, isn't it time to give this whole subject a rest until something tangible and NEW comes about?
Some say his scrotum has its own small gravity field...

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Hi Art,

Thank you for calling Immigration and the school today. I know the number I gave you to Immigration is correct because Manilyn and I have called it several times. Extension 4 rings the phone at Mr. Ugarte's desk. Some days we have called and called and no one answered. The only thing we could figure was Mr. Ugarte was not at his desk and no one answers his phone or it was a holiday. The guard answering the phone is very unusual. Every time I have been there he is outside of the front door. I have never seen him in the office. Could it have been a holiday for Immigration employees today?

The information I got from the school was done in person. I didn't think you would want to go to the school so I got the phone number from the school's website. They only have one phone number listed so I a*sumed it would be the correct number.

I believe you misunderstood me about one thing.  Paul says he doesn't make any money from LinC and I said that is a lie because he told me he makes money from it every month and that month he made over $700.  I don't know if he donates to charity or not.  Tim posted a link to a thread where Paul and Daisy were discussing donating to a charity. Maybe you could ask Daisy who was working on setting up a charity. On the thread there was a discussion about donating to a charity but the only money being changed hands was money being given to Paul. There was never any mention of money actually being given to charity on that thread, so Tim didn't prove that Paul ever donated to charity by that thread.

I believe you are misunderstanding what some people are saying, for example, if I say I don't believe Paul is donating to charity, you should know that is only my belief, I'm not stating it as fact.

I know some men who have done 1 & 2 including myself, but it didn't do any good because the girl wouldn't leave him, she needs the money. And, it didn't do any good when a girl finally couldn't take anymore abuse and left him because he just found another girl to abuse in a few days. The only legal way to stop him is to put him in prison.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2012, 09:33:28 AM by Easy44 »

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Testing Testing is this topic still open or closed?  I can't tell anymore.

Mr. Art did you call Immigration and the school again today?  Most people who live in the Philippines know it usually takes a long time to get anything done, so don't give up yet.

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I think the responses of Art and Stig ring true in just leaving things as they are. As the case is filed via Americano and nothing else is actually ongoing by any forum members its better to just wait.
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Yes, we will just wait because those who keep saying they want to know the truth are too lazy to find the truth for themselves. They keep depending on other people to tell them the truth.  And when they hear the truth they don't believe it.  Very similar to our friend Evan.  I'm beginning to wonder if Art on this forum is actually Evan.

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Quote from: Americano on March 13, 2012, 02:24:28 PMYes, we will just wait because those who keep saying they want to know the truth are too lazy to find the truth for themselves. They keep depending on other people to tell them the truth.  And when they hear the truth they don't believe it.  Very similar to our friend Evan.  I'm beginning to wonder if Art on this forum is actually Evan.
Given your history with Evan maybe I deserve that, you probably don't know who to trust now.  Seeing as how I am on Evans wall of shame as a supporter of Paul which is a damn lie I'm a supporter of whats true and you can't find that without asking the hard questions you should be more compassionate. 

The man at immigration was a hard man wouldnt say only wanted to know where Paul was and the relationship to him he said he wanted Paul to come in and talk to him gave the idea that there were many sightings of Paul reported to them.  I have the idea he is either angry with all the calls or he is not a man to be messed with.  He said he would only tell the American Embassy if Paul was blacklisted he can't give information over the phone.   

The school was a no go again always network is busy.  I give up on that. 

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Art,

Don't worry about being on Evan's Wall of Shame. I'm on his Wall of shame now too. I guess one day all foreigners living in the Philippines will be on it. I wonder if he likes any foreigner who is living in the Philippines. And, what I don't understand is why is it any of his business, he lives on the other side of the world in France. If he was living here and it was effecting them then that would be different.

Well, I guess Mr. Ugarte was suspicious because he didn't know you. I should have called him first and told him that Art would be calling. He may have thought you were trying to help Paul or you sounded so official he might have thought you were Paul's lawyer. I don't believe he is mad about the calls but he does take his job seriously. The day Manilyn reported what Paul had done to her, Mr. Ugarte checked his Immigration status first and then wrote up an Affidavit for Manilyn to sign and then he said Petrea is big and he has a violent history we will take a gun with us. He was ready to go arrest Paul that day or the next day but the Director said they would have to wait for approval from BOI in Manila.  They are still waiting for approval from Manila because they have so many cases.

I will remember what you said about being more compassionate. I usually am but sometimes I'm not because of problems and frustrations. I will try harder.



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AMEN! :P

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Quote from: 20inchGunsalute on March 11, 2012, 04:40:44 PM

Tim, this is simply not true if what you told me on a phone was honest. I am not sure if you remember me, but I was the guy who watched football with you at 2 AM a few years ago when you were having issues with your then girlfriend, and had another marine staying there. Playoffs, Saints won it all? Bell? I just got there in Cebu. I am also a football junkie (former player), and on Paul's site (won't get into all the trash you said about what this felon was doing, as told by yourself) but when the superbowl came around, I asked on Paul's site where to watch in Cebu. A poster suggested sport exchange (?) and Paul removed the information, which I then re-posted for all to see. He then threatened to ban me (oh the horrors..lol) and I began a string of posts making fun of the bad liver king, until he banned me (as expected). I was not aware of ANY reason why he would not allow a post as such, a helpful post, to not be allowed. He responded that it was because the owner did not promote his place to filipino's. Huh? I got a chuckle out of that, especially after talking to the owner during the bowl and frequenting the place many times after, being they had a huge pinoy base of customers, and plenty of workers.

You later moved to the other side of Cebu, Toledo City if I recall, and we were going to get together a few times. During these phone conversations you explained to me the reasons WHY Paul did what he did regarding the place and my banning.

You response, because Paul makes money from the site, and I did not know that, and this guy was not paying for the "free" advertising I was posting up.

So, indeed Paul makes money from his site, as told by you, and it does NOT go to charity, also suggested by yourself. I am not sure why you are now suggesting this lowlife (some of the stories you told me about this man made me shiver) somehow is a charitable guy, or even defend him in any way.

BTW, glad to see you are married with a beautiful boy, and hope to see you again if I ever get back to Cebu. God bless and go Giants. Oh, that's right....we won the superbowl. :cool:

I remember you and glad you are still live and kicking.  Just because I posted what a third party says does not make true nor does it make it what I believe.  I have no facts to the contrary, that he does not send it to charity.  What I may think is irrelevant to the circumstances.   Yes the site makes money for Paul and what he says he does with the proceeds is give it to charity.  Again I have no proof to substantiate me saying it does not.  Each person can assume as they wish and so will I.   I have not defended Paul nor have been one to say he is innocent.  Because I have no horse in the race I say lets wait and see.  It is easy for me.    Giants wow...
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When a company or person is receiving donations and then giving that donated money to Charity, its only common sense and courtesy to provide that information to the donors. Every donor should know where their donated money went.  Did Paul ever provide a monthly or quarterly report to his donors?

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I would say that any official at Immigration are difficult to deal with on the phone unless you know them personally. I deal with Abellion from time to time but generally he likes doing everything face to face rather than over the phone. Some of it is paranoia in case anything gets recorded and ends them up on News Patrol for this evenings entertainment. The other side being that cases are private information and shouldn't be disclosed to the general public, unless the general public are offering new information in the location of or stating that they heard immigration were looking for at which point they are likely to request a face to face meeting anyway.

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