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Quote from: 'Norseman' pid='2650' dateline='1331153593'
The answer is Alcohol.  They were all drinking.  I do not have to be that educated to figure it out.  

If I were a betting man.  The events went as follows.  Paul and Americano were drinking.  Wife comes says lets go home. Americano says no.  Wife gets lippy with Americano and little abusive because he is paying more attention to his SM.  Paul is actually between Wife and Americano.  Paul grabs wife because he hates this kinda thing and as the "let me goes are said then he forces her on the ground".  By this time the intoxicated Americano realizes what is happening and stands up grabs wife and go back to room.  Not till once he has sobered up does he realize the gravity of the situation and what really happened.    My take based on a few things I read and pictures.  However who really knows once the court case is over I guess we all know what happen.


If you have ever considered pursuing a career as a script writer for TV or screen I hate to dash your dreams but in all honesty your fantasies dont come across as plausible- never mind feasible.


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Another dream dashed at the hands of Wowwowee.  

Coming from the name of the cheesiest game show ever.  Really have you watched TV here?
« Last Edit: March 8, 2012, 04:04:41 AM by Norseman »

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Well the saga goes on ... and on!
I only know that in response to my inquiry 2011, I was emailed an invitation by Paul to participate in  the loans scheme he promoted on LinC.
I had believed that Paul was a straight up guy but when I looked into it I did not invest.
The invite I received only referred to him, no others were mentioned.

Now regards what happened to the investors money, the assault allegations, the underage girl issue, the passport thing etc etc., well like many here I don't know.
But what I do know is that if this much sh it was bouncing around about me and it was all BS, then I would be fighting back loud and clear!:@
My conclusion now is that Paul is a sick cookie who is now facing the consequences (along with others) of his arrogance personified.  
His attitude towards members of his forum had become that of an arrogant ego maniac with an inferiority complex. Unfortunately also bringing his disturbing concepts of women down to gutter level in posts such as his disclosure of one young ladies sexual status and his conquest thereof. sic. Sorry Paul, you've lost me and you'll lose more unless you front up and either defend yourself or sort out the mess! :huh:
BTW... Where in The Philippines is the USA?:P

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Quote from: 'Ozepete' pid='2701' dateline='1331181625'
BTW... Where in The Philippines is the USA?:P

Mindanao :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: March 8, 2012, 04:59:30 AM by The Stig »
Some say his scrotum has its own small gravity field...

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Quote from: 'Ozepete' pid='2701' dateline='1331181625'
My conclusion now is that Paul is a sick cookie who is now facing the consequences (along with others) of his arrogance personified.  
His attitude towards members of his forum had become that of an arrogant ego maniac with an inferiority complex.


Dang, you are good! That is him in a nut shell. I kid you not!!!!! All you missed was chauvinist to a high order of magnitude.

It was mentioned earlier in this now monolithic thread, about his antics where Paul went off to fight some guy in Danao during the Mexican Fiesta at Dave's house in Liloan. What he did not tell you was that Paul got his clock cleaned by that 60+ year old man, from Arkansas or Alabama I believe, but you know my memory!

I'm about done I think. I know I'm not adding real value to the general thread at the moment, but after so many years of holding this all inside, it feels good to tell the truth and let it out!!!



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Ok I have not said much about This whole subject but as I have been mentioned more than a few times I will add what I know .
Myself Paul Phil Manilyn and Che went to moalboal together in October I just arrived and was jet lagged  . We all went out for dinner and drinks and I got pretty drunk because I was so tired .  I went to bed at around 11 or 12 pm and left the rest of the party at the bar .  In the morning we went home (I was feeling bad)
From what i can remember we just hung out for 3 days I didn,t see Phil but did run into Paul the day I returned and he said Manilyn was hitting Phil in the bar and Paul stepped in to stop it . I brushed the who;e thing off as drunken antics . When I did talk to Phil and seen Manilyn and heard the story she told me I freaked out a bit and gave Phil Sh$t and was very angry about what I heard .

This was the 3rd day back late at night I then told Che to pack our bags and be ready to go back to Moalboal first thing in the morning .
I had heard Pauls version of events and also Phil and Manilyns .  We all know there His side Her side and the truth as the old saying gos.
I talked to the girls at esters bar and the girls at ventures bar and as luck would have it our tricycle driver was the guard at the hotel .

Manilyns version is what happened from what I was told by eye witnesses  (theres more than 2 )  The guard spoke no english but   it was translated to me with the guard doing charades as he was telling the story .

I hate this whole thing I was a good friend of Pauls and was trying to help him by bringing up stuff he did to his girls and trying to make him see he was flipping up . I really did see the bad side of him on many occasions   but as a friend I tried to bring these to his attention and stick up for his girl of the day .

Many times i took his girl under my wing and looked after here . Let her stay with me and Che or just took her away to a safe place .
Friendship to me is not turning your back when your friend needs you but I like everyone have a breaking point .  

I don,t believe any man should ever hit a girl .  But what happens between a man and his wife behind closed doors is hard to prove .
The fact Paul jumped in to a fight between a couple is just stupid . He did push her down i don,t think anybody can defend what he did including Paul.

If he would have just went to manilyn the next day and gave a heart felt apology  she would have forgivin him  but instead he told others in town that Phil caused all the bruising which really pissed off Manilyn .

I know I have not really answered any questions or brought anything new to light but this is all I know .

Is Paul guilty I believe he did man handle Manilyn The guards story was pretty convincing as were the bar tenders
Does he need to go to jail ?    as someone said thats a death sentence for him  

I did leave Linc long ago because of Pauls behavior to his girls and had little to do with him but I though he may have turned over a new leaf he was with his currant GF for almost a year and slowed down on drinking big time .

I also have stopped trying to meet expats as it just trouble most times . I come to the RP to relax and not stress and cause drama .
I have nothing to add to this and don,t feel the need to dig Paul any deeper . He made his bed now he has to sleep in it .

Really I think it time to move on to other subjects . One day Paul will show up somewhere and at that point he can address everyones questions until then we are just running around in circles . I feel bad for Manilyn in all this shes the victim of abuse and i have seen it hurts her .

So peace out brothers      
 

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I don't want to continue this unnecessarily but I must add that for us expats living in the RP, especially Amercians, the best thing is for him is to be deported asap. To where, who cares.

If he goes to Court here, a lot will come out that will not reflect very well on the people who have and continue to support him although I suspect most of them are not perminent residents. If anyone is advising him, perhaps they should try to do a deal, for the right sort of money, and disappear somewhere else, far away.


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for us expats living in the RP, especially Amercians, the best thing is for him is to be deported asap.

wow ! i.ve lived in Cebu for 2 years and i have yet to meet anyone that i thought should be deported asap !

I can see people being subjected to Philippine law, but why should they have the luxury of being shipped somewhere else without having to answer for the crimes that they committed here ?

Personally i dont think Amercians should only be deported if they committed a crime in Amercan
« Last Edit: March 8, 2012, 08:32:29 AM by wowwowee »

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Quote from: 'Americano' pid='2207' dateline='1330867592'
Quote from: 'Norseman' pid='2201' dateline='1330867128'He says Georgia, North Carolina, Florida, Somewhere in between. He has been asked and replied very vague.  Though those are the states thus far he has traveled to in or about.  According to his statements.

Maybe his friend with the problem is traveling to all those states so he has to follow him, haha.

Quote from: 'wowwowee' pid='2724' dateline='1331195420'for us expats living in the RP, especially Amercians, the best thing is for him is to be deported asap.

wow ! i.ve lived in Cebu for 2 years and i have yet to meet anyone that i thought should be deported asap !

I can see people being subjected to Philippine law, but why should they have the luxury of being shipped somewhere else without having to answer for the crimes that they committed here ?

Personally i dont think Amercians should only be deported if they committed a crime in Amercan

I wish they'd deport me.  Then I could get the hell out of Atlanta and back to the mosqueland , lol.

Hey, I tend to agree that true justice would be letting him get a taste of local law -- and punishment, if so judged.

« Last Edit: March 8, 2012, 01:59:18 PM by DrSmith »

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Shroptoon Army of 1 wrote:

QuoteI don't want to continue this unnecessarily but I must add that for us expats living in the RP, especially Amercians, the best thing is for him is to be deported asap.


Please explain!

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Quote from: 'Terp54' pid='2773' dateline='1331214560'
Shroptoon Army of 1 wrote:

QuoteI don't want to continue this unnecessarily but I must add that for us expats living in the RP, especially Amercians, the best thing is for him is to be deported asap.


Please explain!



I can explain. He's trying to say that we are all emissaries of our own country to some degree, so people like PP give us a bad rap.  


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Quote from: 'LeeFromCanada' pid='2718' dateline='1331191641'
I know I have not really answered any questions or brought anything new to light but this is all I know .


That may be so, Lee, but your account is very valuable as it adds weight to Americano's allegation and even more so by virtue of you being a close friend of Paul's at the time. The fact that his friends are turning against him and coming out with the truth as they know it, is very telling.


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It's a love...hate thing with pp.
we all have know paul in one way(on the ground)or the other.
the guy has(seems to)a good side and a know bad side.
my biggest problem was vivian,she was treated like Sh$t at times
but at other times she was cherished by pp
she got pregant while with a pinoy and had a baby bye him
pp said he will take care of the child...he still cares for vivian,I do think he still loves her very much to this day...and she forgives him for his conduct.
as far has the husband not jumping into the fray in an instant to protect the wife...could it be the booze was the cause.
fights start fast and end fast!
me and pp had our fight over a supposed to happen computer deal down in carcar while me pp and smitty were drinking beers
it was short and kind of funny...we were face to face and he took his giant palm and hit me in my left shoulder(like a line backer)so hard i re-tracked about 15 feet!i stayed on my feet and we charged each other,this time i was able to side step and push him forward.he damn near went through the saloon window and fell down just short of that.
We cooled off just before the pnp showed up.
a crowd had gathered bye than watching what could have been the 2 biggest guys they have ever seen go to battle?
got home and could not move my arm for a wek or so
my gf wanted to go get him deported after the fact

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he's a wanker.... sorry to say.....couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag.....I never met him.... but I heard enough to know he can't fight.....

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Quote from: 'Markham' pid='2943' dateline='1331300996'
Quote from: 'LeeFromCanada' pid='2718' dateline='1331191641'
I know I have not really answered any questions or brought anything new to light but this is all I know .


That may be so, Lee, but your account is very valuable as it adds weight to Americano's allegation and even more so by virtue of you being a close friend of Paul's at the time. The fact that his friends are turning against him and coming out with "the truth" as they know it, is very telling.



Yes but telling of what Markham or who, Paul or his friends?  

There is only what is true or not true, "truth as they know it" really means opinion, opinion is not the same as the truth, as the facts.  

Lee wasn't there and he is only reporting what others told him.  So when he says this,   "Manilyns version is what happened from what I was told by eye witnesses"  its his opinion on what he heard not the truth of what happened.

What I would like to read would be first hand facts, like someone coming forward and saying Yeah I saw  Paul pick up "name" and throw her out the window.   I saw Paul and Bill counting up money and I saw Paul put 500,000 into his pocket and ride off into the sunset.   Not opinions or hearsay or fabrications.

I know a few of you really dont like Paul but please give me verifiable facts I wont put a noose around a mans neck based only on a dislike of the mans character who allegedly mistreats his girlfriends physically because I heard of a friend who said he did.

Paul admits to hitting JJ  he hasnt hidden from that,  I havent read he admits to hitting anyone else or every girlfriend.  Only JJ and manilyn have come forward with claims of phsyical abuse.  Two too many of course.  No one else?

This is a first hand account from Lee of conversations he had.  "I had heard Pauls version of events and also Phil and Manilyns."

"I didn,t see Phil but did run into Paul the day I returned and he said Manilyn was hitting Phil in the bar and Paul stepped in to stop it."

The fact Paul jumped in to a fight between a couple is just stupid"  So Manilyn and Phil were fighting was it verbal only or was there also a physical fight?

Manilyn says in her affidavit that she asked permission of her fiance to go ahead of him to their room  "but this resulted to a little argument"
Maybe it was a little argument or something else?
I can't imagine Paul or anyone just sitting in bar and suddenly thinking to themselves "I will just jump up now and physically abuse this woman." without a reason

"I don,t believe any man should ever hit a girl . But what happens between a man and his wife behind closed doors is hard to prove."
Lee, please clarify are you talking about Phil and Manilyn or Paul?

"When I did talk to Phil and seen Manilyn and heard the story she told me I freaked out a bit and gave Phil Sh$t and was very angry about what I heard."    
What did you hear that freaked you out?  
Why did you give Phil Sh$t?  
What did you hear that made you very angry?

Some clarification would help.

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