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RE: Another Big Lie
« Reply #390 on: March 7, 2012, 02:19:39 PM »
I did not say I believe it.  I just can not say its not true.

I do not believe in Aliens but will not say they can not be out there.  Proof I like it Black White. Shades of gray are not my bag.  
« Last Edit: March 7, 2012, 02:20:36 PM by Norseman »

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RE: Another Big Lie
« Reply #391 on: March 7, 2012, 02:20:48 PM »
OK...

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RE: Another Big Lie
« Reply #392 on: March 7, 2012, 02:36:49 PM »
Tim,

I read all 6 pages of that first thread you provided, which dated from 19 AUG 2007 to 29 JUNE 2008 when it was locked.
I read about planning, promises and wishful thinking, even money was sent to Paul, but I didn't read where any money was ever donated from LinC or Paul to charity.

The only thing the thread proved to me is that donating to charity was discussed.
« Last Edit: March 7, 2012, 02:46:16 PM by Americano »

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RE: Another Big Lie
« Reply #393 on: March 7, 2012, 03:12:26 PM »
Americano, so far we have not established the statement you refered to is a lie so far its just an unverified assertion by you.  

You also stated Pauls girlfriend's birthday is the 20th of April 1994 making her still 17.  Here is a statement by Paul made on the 4th December 2011

  "I went there to be with Jinky on her 18th birthday, so we could start dating officially."   So at least by the 4th December and earlier she is alleged by Paul to be 18.   Now if you or anyone else can verify that is her correct birth date then we have established a lie by Paul.  

You have made several dodgy assertions about Paul without back up your credibility is sinking again with me and that influences my opinion of the affidavit your wife made which has some dodgy information in it.  

Some time you are going to have to back up what you say or sink by your own lack of truth.
« Last Edit: March 7, 2012, 03:16:16 PM by Art »

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RE: Another Big Lie
« Reply #394 on: March 7, 2012, 03:34:51 PM »
Well Art did you call Immigration today?  We should stick on one subject until the truth is learned by all. Changing subjects every few minutes only confuses the issues. Let's start with his lying about not being blacklisted and here illegally and then I will prove Jinky's real date of birth next. Can we do that?

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RE: Another Big Lie
« Reply #395 on: March 7, 2012, 04:01:15 PM »
Quote from: 'Norseman' pid='2604' dateline='1331127714'
http://www.livingincebuforums.com/ipb/topic/3698-foundations-non-profit-organizations-etc/page__view__findpost__p__25010

There is the Post to what is being asked.  

He actually registered a website for donations.  The website is down now.
http://www.livingincebuchildrenscharities.com/


Like ART says we should not just speculate he did not do it.  We do not know unless we verify it.  It takes away from credit ability of the site and person who posts this.


He has mentioned to me before he was donating to Daisy's charity at the same time said he had a full-time employee who manages all the sites and donations. The figures he gave didn't make any sense as her salary worked out higher than I "expected" the donations to be. At the same time Paul has more than 50 sites or used to with selling the E-books and other things it is possible he makes other donation money besides LinC that he doesn't disclose. I have other sites that generate hundreds of dollars a month that I don't talk about as they aren't relevant to the Philippines. Could be a similar case.
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RE: Another Big Lie
« Reply #396 on: March 7, 2012, 04:13:06 PM »
Where is he lying about being black listed?  I'm not doubting you I just didnt come across that statement his blacklisting is not an issue with me and I'm not interested in if he is here illegally or not if he found a way to enter the country legally its not my problem or concern its the other misadventures people are claiming about Paul like your wife and you claiming he assaulted her its your assertions that I want to verify.  Its the assertion he scammed or misappropriated LinC investors money Its your assertion he doesnt give his LinC income to charity as he claims now those issues concern me and I want to know the truth about them.   Answering questions will stop confusion.

Prove Jinky's real age and stop dancing with me.   When you make a claim about Paul back it up.  That's all I ask leave the dodgy talk to the bad guys.

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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #397 on: March 7, 2012, 04:56:44 PM »
Quote from: 'wowwowee' pid='2598' dateline='1331125416'Senator McCarthy would love Linc these days !  Now we have a new pronouncement from Headshot !

Well he was "affectionately" known as "Headcase" in certain underground passages of LinC ....

At least there are still one or two members of LinC staff with a sense of humour: this photo of their revered leader was posted yesterday by one of them:

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« Last Edit: March 7, 2012, 04:57:41 PM by Markham »

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RE: Another Big Lie
« Reply #398 on: March 7, 2012, 05:14:37 PM »
Quote from: 'Americano' pid='2597' dateline='1331125067'
Look what Alan S. posted on LinC today.  

"And, for the benefit of, Malipayon Puti, this forum makes NOTHING, I repeat, nothing, for the owners, admins or moderators.
It covers its costs, and ALL the surplus goes to a charity."

Paul has been telling this lie for years. Paul does not have a pension, retirement, disability or any other source of income, LinC is it.

Paul makes several hundred dollars per month from Google ads which are on LinC. Each time someone clicks on an ad he makes money.

Paul keeps telling this lie because he wants everyone to think he is a good guy by giving money to charity and schools.


This is the OP here.  It's an understandable question given what has transpired recently, as are Art's responses.  I just don't believe it's going to get resolved here and now short of hard proof being put on the table.  With the assault charges, there appears to be hard facts in the form of police documents posted on another site, however dicey the site and its owner have been claimed to be. Regarding the 5/6 business, it appears real victims have come forth to make the claim of not being made whole on promised investment returns.  There's even what appears to be a spreadsheet posted on the same site documenting original investors, one or more of whom have stepped forward claiming scam.  But this issue still seems to lack evidence more than the others.  And we are beginning to just go back and forth, and around and around, on this charge in this thread.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.  BTW, I appreciate that like always here so far in this community, everyone has kept it civil.    


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RE: Another Big Lie
« Reply #399 on: March 7, 2012, 05:37:46 PM »
All the Paul Petrea threads are going to be merged into one large thread. Only request though is people keep things to facts! The charity thing has been heard by several people and I believe its only Paul Petrea and Daisy from LinC that will know what is the truth with that.

The other important thing is that it appears that there is just a level of lying at worst as I haven't heard anyone say they donated to Paul's charity (if there is one). Which should be just left as is because we don't know what Paul does with the forum money of his forum or his websites but that is his personal business. If he tells people he gives it all away then doesn't seems a bit odd but no law being broken. At the same time if he does give it away would love to see the clothing, food programs or medical aid that he donated and done. I do have photos of the ones I do and I am sure if Paul does his bit for charity he surely took photos himself.

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Well, I just asked for facts...  So here, just in from LinC by Digiteye:

(Steve, on 07 March 2012 - 11:04 AM, said:
Let's just concentrate on the OP.}

Yeah right, certainly that would be best instead of semantics.

(Steve, on 07 March 2012 - 05:53 AM, said:
any topics in regards to other forums or the accusations against Paul will stop now and not be posted)

So instead of accusations, let me reveal facts.

I have sent over 500k pesos to Paul to invest for me with the late Bill Aragoni (aka munchkin) in a salary loan business which he promoted heavily in these very forums from 2010 to early 2011.

Most of that money is missing.

Curiously many small investors have been fully paid but none of the biggest investors.

Paul is not around to assist in having it back. He has not even read my PM that I sent him in January after learning about the death of BIll Aragoni for over a month in which PM I asked his help to get my money back.

These are facts. Not accusations. I have proof of everything.
Now I guess before this has to be deleted, a new rule must be created: one can only say good stuff about Paul or the post will be deleted.

But to be fair, this also should be known in these family friendly forums, not only the wrong doings of "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named"

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(Steve, on 07 March 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:
This is the crap that I'm talking about.)

Nope, the crap you are talking about is this:

(Steve, on 07 March 2012 - 05:53 AM, said:
any topics in regards to other forums or the accusations against Paul will stop now and not be posted.)

Nowhere in my post there is any reference to other forums and there is no accusations whatsoever. Just facts, pure facts. So it is not that crap.

(Steve, on 07 March 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:
That is between you and Paul. Not you and this forum.)

I beg to differ. This forum has been used as a vehicle for Paul to collect close to 2 million pesos from members for that investment business.
In the "recruitment" phase the info was posted to everyone.
Then a closed sub-forum has been created for the investors - that sub-forum still exists.
Paul has used his reputation gained by having thousands of members in this site to convince investors about the business he promoted.
He has not sent emails or PM-s to people whom he believed to be interested. He has broadened his spectrum instead. He posted about his business in this public forum.

Was it alright to use the forum for that phase of the business? Obviously, since no one protested.

Now why is it a problem to use the same forum in another phase of the same business (when the Sh$t has hit the fan)?
« Last Edit: March 7, 2012, 06:35:26 PM by DrSmith »

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It really does seem that it's a case of "break-out the powder and shot, the peasants are revolting" over at LinC; well that's their problem and they're welcome to it. But one has to wonder why two of its Admins were barely visible there from the time Paul disappeared until the last day or so and now they're trying to restrict discussions even more - even in its private forums where there was pretty much a guarantee of freedom of speech.

Like it or not, their forum is at the centre of the mess caused by its owner and it is natural for its members to seek answers. Preventing them from doing so will, I'm sure, cause many more to leave and look elsewhere.





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People keep saying they want to know the truth but has anyone called Immigration besides me? Am I the only man brave enough to call Immigration?  They are people just like us so there's no reason to be afraid. Here is the phone number one last time. +63-032-345-6442 Ext. 4  Ask Mr. Ugarte, pronounced u/gar/te, what is the status of Woody Paul Petrea Sr.

I feel like I'm just wasting my time and energy posting here because no one believes me and they won't take enough initiative to even make a phone call. Then there would be two of us that know the truth.

If no one calls Immigration and then post here what Mr. Ugarte told you then I will not be posting here any longer. This will be my last post. You can keep believing the known criminal.

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Quote from: 'Americano' pid='2642' dateline='1331149045'People keep saying they want to know the truth but has anyone called Immigration besides me? Am I the only man brave enough to call Immigration?  They are people just like us so there's no reason to be afraid. Here is the phone number one last time. +63-032-345-6442 Ext. 4  Ask Mr. Ugarte, pronounced u/gar/te, what is the status of Woody Paul Petrea Sr.

I feel like I'm just wasting my time and energy posting here because no one believes me and they won't take enough initiative to even make a phone call. Then there would be two of us that know the truth.

If no one calls Immigration and then post here what Mr. Ugarte told you then I will not be posting here any longer. This will be my last post. You can keep believing the known criminal.

Americano,  I really haven't gleaned from others posts that they don't believe you.  Everyone has their own lives, commitments and levels of interest in various things.  It seems to me that the situation may be that many others are not as emotionally invested as you, regardless of their comments here one way or another.  Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my take.  I hope you stick around.

« Last Edit: March 7, 2012, 08:04:09 PM by DrSmith »

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Hello, I have been a member of the linc forum since 2007 when I asked for and got help with a problem I had. I know Bob Ward and I know Paul and I have met a few other expats that live on Cebu.  I am the kind of guy that can get along with anybody and I got along with Paul the 4 times i visited with  him last May. After reading all of this I have to agree with somone who said "where thers smoke theres fire" If even half of what is said is true then he is not a very nice person to put it mildley.
There is just one question that I keep thinking and havn't seen it asked or answered here, If Americano was there when the assult too place, why didn't he do someting to Paul? If it was me or anyone I know there is nobody that will lay hands on my wife if I am there. Even if the person is bigger and I might be afraid, he will turn his back at some time and there is always something around to hit him with. So why didn't you bust his head or kick him in the nads?

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