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Try to look up Admin in members list over there

Member since 17 jan 2012 ?
Location Florida ?


Oh I see now  name was changed from Admin to Paul on that date
« Last Edit: March 6, 2012, 08:24:52 AM by Woolf »

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Quote from: 'Markham' pid='2412' dateline='1331018966'
Quote from: 'harrell' pid='2392' dateline='1331000067'
I see Steve denies that there is any modifications that allows reading of PMs. That may be true, but.......
All Paul has to do is download the database onto an offline computer running a hacked version of the forum software.
He would have full access to anything he wants.
Just saying........
Explain how Paul knew about Angie's PM's?

Read up about PMs and how many Admins read people's PMs.

I also think they can do it as you do not have an expectation of privacy on any forum.
Also PM on Paul's forum means Personal Messenger, not Private Messenger.


Paul doesn't need to download anything because he can do it all online by logging-on to his server and run phpMyAdmin to examine the database. All the PMs will be in one table and will include member numbers for sender and recipients. It is laughably easy and he may even have a php or Perl script to produce a nice report containing all the details.

Steve is a person I credit with considerably more integrity and if he says that the IPB software has not been modified (to allow PMs to be read), then I'm inclined to believe him. However his answer didn't address the core issue - that I and others believe PMs are being routinely read; he may not know or wish to know.

:huh:
This does explain a lot to me. Though I did post a reply to a thread there some months ago stating that "Everything" on the WebThingy can be "read."

As is the case  with cell'phone TEXT messages.

In the mechanical days of telefoolery I and my Bro. in Eire would report on a party going like a "Bomb" or such (sex) having been "Explosive" and  then wait for the
"click" on the line. As I was in HM's Forces at the time and calling from "the office" I was regularly  carpeted. :rolleyes:

Thanks,

Tom

« Last Edit: March 6, 2012, 08:38:14 AM by singers »

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I always believed and was told by a close friend of his that Paul has a way of reading PM's so I never sent anything that was confidential by PM. I believe he has total control over the website and its content.

« Last Edit: March 6, 2012, 08:31:42 AM by Americano »

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Quote from: 'Bob Ward' pid='2361' dateline='1330986744'
I believe that there is no way within the operational capabilities of the forum software for admins to read PMs. But I know full well that you can search the database and find the messages.

Paul has done that in the past and he plainly admitted to it in a nasty message he wrote to Angie from LinC. She had answered a PM from a Filipino in CA who was implying that she was attracted to Paul. She replied that she was not in fact attracted to him as he was not good looking! He went ballistic and banned her immediately, even though at the time she really needed the income from teaching LinC members Cebuano!

So to those of you who think your PMs are private on LinC, think again!!!!!!!! That is just one clear example (of which I have a soft copy) that PMs are being abused there. It's still going on!!!

Quote from: 'harrell' pid='2392' dateline='1331000067'
Explain how Paul knew about Angie's PM's?


I will explain how Paul knew about Angie's PM there are some errors of fact here.   I don't know if Paul can read PM's or not but in Angies case he knew about her PM conversation with Dinuguanboy because Dinuguanboy forwarded Angie's PM to Paul to read.  I'm surprised you have forgotten about that Bob seeing as how you sent an email to Dinuguanboy gloating over his banning.  

I have not seen any nasty messages from Paul to Angie I was Angie's student at the time and contributed money for her cancer treatment I also was her advocate on the Forum when she shot herself in the foot by her posts, I have several emails from Angie about that situation when she took me into her confidence and asked, then ignored my advice.  I have a copy of that PM that upset Paul.  If there was a nasty one she would have shown that to me as she sent me all the correspondance on that incident and afterwards.

He did not ban her he did nothing until she tried to use the forum to attack Paul then he restricted her use of the forum.

Angie was at a party sitting with ancienrocka and his wife, chaz and some other LinC members when Paul approached her and heavily scolded her for her comments to Dinugauanboy Angie at that time didnt know Dinugaunboy had forwarded her comments to Paul so she was taken by surprise by Pauls public outburst to her and his pointing the finger at her as he complained about her remarks which did offend and hurt him.  He told her not to disrespect him again in his forum or she would be gone. It wasnt the comment she didnt find him attractive that made Paul mad.  He thought she was a friend and he was allowing her to use the forum to promote her Cebuano business and also ask for donations for her cancer chemotherapy and he felt betrayed by her unflattering put downs of him to Dinuguanboy.  

Angie got offended by Pauls publicly embarrassing her with his scolding and went straight to the LinC forum and started a contentious thread I read what she wrote then Paul or someone deleted that thread.  Not content with that Angie started another thread where she hinted someone threatened her life (ie Paul) Paul put her on moderation and stopped her PM priviliges she was off moderation Jan 16th.   When she posted something Paul didn't like on Feb 2nd he restricted her posting for 48 hours.  As far as I can work out he didnt ban her just limited her for a while and I dont blame him.  


 




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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #349 on: March 6, 2012, 09:19:15 AM »
I would like to address Mr. Mike and others who are wondering why LinC members are coming to this new forum. The answer is very simple. LinC members are not allowed to post anything that is negative in any way towards Paul. Either it will be deleted or you will be banned. In my case, I was banned from LinC so I came here. Now, I'm finally able to tell the truth. Paul doesn't want anyone to know the truth about him on LinC.

Paul allowed Bob Ward's thread to stay on the forum for about 24 hours but Paul had a good reason for doing that. Paul was able to find more people saying negative things against him and ban them too. Go read the thread and try to find one negative poster who is still posting, you won't find one. Paul sensors the truth.

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"Paul threatened her life"  That sounds very flamilar. Paul has told me a few times that he should have killed his wife in Georgia and he would either kill Steve or pay someone to kill him. Paul likes to threaten people with death. That's his style.

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Quote from: 'Art' pid='2423' dateline='1331025360'
Quote from: 'Bob Ward' pid='2361' dateline='1330986744'I believe that there is no way within the operational capabilities of the forum software for admins to read PMs. But I know full well that you can search the database and find the messages.

Paul has done that in the past and he plainly admitted to it in a nasty message he wrote to Angie from LinC. She had answered a PM from a Filipino in CA who was implying that she was attracted to Paul. She replied that she was not in fact attracted to him as he was not good looking! He went ballistic and banned her immediately, even though at the time she really needed the income from teaching LinC members Cebuano!

So to those of you who think your PMs are private on LinC, think again!!!!!!!! That is just one clear example (of which I have a soft copy) that PMs are being abused there. It's still going on!!!
Quote from: 'harrell' pid='2392' dateline='1331000067'Explain how Paul knew about Angie's PM's?

I will explain how Paul knew about Angie's PM there are some errors of fact here.   I don't know if Paul can read PM's or not but in Angies case he knew about her PM conversation with Dinuguanboy because Dinuguanboy forwarded Angie's PM to Paul to read.  I'm surprised you have forgotten about that Bob seeing as how you sent an email to Dinuguanboy gloating over his banning.  

I have not seen any nasty messages from Paul to Angie I was Angie's student at the time and contributed money for her cancer treatment I also was her advocate on the Forum when she shot herself in the foot by her posts, I have several emails from Angie about that situation when she took me into her confidence and asked, then ignored my advice.  I have a copy of that PM that upset Paul.  If there was a nasty one she would have shown that to me as she sent me all the correspondance on that incident and afterwards.

He did not ban her he did nothing until she tried to use the forum to attack Paul then he restricted her use of the forum.

Angie was at a party sitting with ancienrocka and his wife, chaz and some other LinC members when Paul approached her and heavily scolded her for her comments to Dinugauanboy Angie at that time didnt know Dinugaunboy had forwarded her comments to Paul so she was taken by surprise by Pauls public outburst to her and his pointing the finger at her as he complained about her remarks which did offend and hurt him.  He told her not to disrespect him again in his forum or she would be gone. It wasnt the comment she didnt find him attractive that made Paul mad.  He thought she was a friend and he was allowing her to use the forum to promote her Cebuano business and also ask for donations for her cancer chemotherapy and he felt betrayed by her unflattering put downs of him to Dinuguanboy.  

Angie got offended by Pauls publicly embarrassing her with his scolding and went straight to the LinC forum and started a contentious thread I read what she wrote then Paul or someone deleted that thread.  Not content with that Angie started another thread where she hinted someone threatened her life (ie Paul) Paul put her on moderation and stopped her PM priviliges she was off moderation Jan 16th.   When she posted something Paul didn't like on Feb 2nd he restricted her posting for 48 hours.  As far as I can work out he didnt ban her just limited her for a while and I dont blame him.  

You have good recall Art! I was incorrect about his banning her immediately! She just said that to me, but she did not understand the inner working of the forum. At the time the whole fracas was going on, I too was closely in touch with Angie as she is a dear friend of K an I. She sent me most every communication between them.

Dinuguanboy was causing trouble all over the forum at the time. Quite possibly Paul said that he got the information "from the database" in order to cover up the fact that Dinuguanboy had forwarded the PM to him. But Paul said exactly that, "he got the information about the PM from the database".

So what else am I to believe?

I do blame him as the only thing she said was she did not find him attractive! What else is new in the Cebu world?
« Last Edit: March 6, 2012, 11:26:34 AM by Bob Ward »

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Quote from: 'Bob Ward' pid='2430' dateline='1331032358'
You have good recall Art! I was incorrect about his banning her immediately! She just said that to me, but she did not understand the inner working of the forum. At the time the whole fracas was going on, I too was closely in touch with Angie as she is a dear friend of K an I. She sent me most every communication between them.

Dinuguanboy was causing trouble all over the forum at the time. Quite possibly Paul said that he got the information "from the database" in order to cover up the fact that Dinuguanboy had forwarded the PM to him. But Paul said exactly that, "he got the information about the PM from the database".

So what else am I to believe?

I do blame him as the only thing she said was she did not find him attractive! What else is new in the Cebu world?



Did Paul say it to you in person or in email or PM as I have a copy of an email you wrote on the 15th of December 09 that said " Seems that Dinuguanboy is the one who started the Sh$t by passing Angie's Private statement to Paul"

I also have statements by Angie that claim Dinuguanboy forwarded her PM on to Paul and when I replied to a post by Dinuguanboy he didnt deny passing on to Paul his PM from Angie.

Do you know the full contents of that PM as I have a copy as well as copies of emails between Angie and Paul and I tell you if you dont know the full contents then what Angie told you, and I know what she told you, is not fully true?
"the only thing she said was she did not find him attractive! "  She said more than that and that was not what offended Paul according to the correspondence I have.  

So what am I to believe?

Americano Paul did not threaten Angie's life there were people who heard what Paul said to Angie and several of us were saying to her to back off from her antics with Paul on the forum but she wouldnt do it.   I have questions for you I'll ask tomorrow

I just want to know what the truth is about Paul so far I'm not convinced of some accusations I feel there are distortions and misinformation going on here and I dont like it at all.  I get the feeling some of you are railroading Paul on any charge against him you can find whether true or not.  Seems Paul is not the only guilty one.

I will start a new thread tomorrow when I have had some sleep with questions of my own.  

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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #353 on: March 6, 2012, 03:12:28 PM »
Thanks for the explaination, especially regarding Bob's thread.

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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #354 on: March 6, 2012, 04:24:59 PM »
Quote from: 'Americano' pid='2425' dateline='1331025555'
I would like to address Mr. Mike and others who are wondering why LinC members are coming to this new forum. The answer is very simple. LinC members are not allowed to post anything that is negative in any way towards Paul. Either it will be deleted or you will be banned. In my case, I was banned from LinC so I came here. Now, I'm finally able to tell the truth. Paul doesn't want anyone to know the truth about him on LinC.

Paul allowed Bob Ward's thread to stay on the forum for about 24 hours but Paul had a good reason for doing that. Paul was able to find more people saying negative things against him and ban them too. Go read the thread and try to find one negative poster who is still posting, you won't find one. Paul sensors the truth.


I didn't join this forum to get away from LinC I came because Markham invited me.

I read through Bob Wards thread and didn't see anyone banned are you saying he deleted their posts?  If Paul censors the truth why did he not delete that thread?  Anyone can go and read it.   Is there anyone who was banned because they posted in Bob's thread saying negative things about Paul?
http://www.livingincebuforums.com/ipb/topic/47726-goodbye-friends/page__hl__%20bob%20%20ward

Is there something going on in LinC I am not aware of because I am starting to get doubts about your integrity.

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Art,

I arrived in the Philippines on November 23, 2009 and started looking for a house to rent. In December I don't believe I had Internet unless I was already able to use my neighbors wifi sometimes. And, I doubt I was active on LinC. Anyway, I don't know anything about the subject being discussed and I don't know Angie. I wish I could help.

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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #356 on: March 7, 2012, 04:34:24 AM »
Art,

I will give you an example of Paul censoring the truth and LinC members are not even aware he is doing it.

Up until October of last year I was a very active poster on LinC. In October there was an incident involving Paul which I had knowledge of, I found out his girlfriend was under age, and I found out he is Blacklisted and in the Philippines illegally. Since the incident involved my fiancee Paul was afraid I would start telling the truth about his criminal activities on LinC. He didn't put Banned across my name because people would be asking him why I was banned. He just used one of his many Admin options which allowed me to log in to LinC but I couldn't post. At first I could post with approval, but after the first post I made it was change to no posting at all. No one on LinC knew I was being censored and no one knew I was banned or blocked from posting. And, then he changed it so I can't log in at all. Everyone just assumed that I stopped posting for some reason. Did you ever see Banned across my name? How many other people have Paul done this to?  No one knows except Paul. He will not let the truth about him be told on LinC. Paul has a criminal assault case filed against him, his girlfriend is 17 years old, born April 20, 1994, and he has been Blacklisted since 2006 and living in the Philippines illegally. These things and others is why he went into hiding.

You are starting to doubt my integrity, Paul's integrity is the one who many are doubting not mine. I can prove everything I have said against Paul but he won't face the accusations and charges against him because they are true.

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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #357 on: March 7, 2012, 04:58:52 AM »
Quote from: 'Americano' pid='2526' dateline='1331094864'
I can prove everything I have said against Paul but he won't face the accusations and charges against him because they are true.


I don't know any of the parties involved in any of these scandals - didn't fall for any of the lame investment pitches, don't care much what minor scrapes and bruises drunken people inflict on one another, don't have any way of knowing which of the he said/she said allegations are true and don't actually care much one way or the other... perfectly happy to let the legal system sort those issues out.  I suspect a lot of the members on both sites feel the same way.

I hope you find satisfaction, or at least closure, in your quest for justice... but I'd suggest you take note of what happened to Captain Ahab in the end.

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Quote from: 'Art' pid='2470' dateline='1331046492'
Quote from: 'Bob Ward' pid='2430' dateline='1331032358'
You have good recall Art! I was incorrect about his banning her immediately! She just said that to me, but she did not understand the inner working of the forum. At the time the whole fracas was going on, I too was closely in touch with Angie as she is a dear friend of K an I. She sent me most every communication between them.

Dinuguanboy was causing trouble all over the forum at the time. Quite possibly Paul said that he got the information "from the database" in order to cover up the fact that Dinuguanboy had forwarded the PM to him. But Paul said exactly that, "he got the information about the PM from the database".

So what else am I to believe?

I do blame him as the only thing she said was she did not find him attractive! What else is new in the Cebu world?



Did Paul say it to you in person or in email or PM as I have a copy of an email you wrote on the 15th of December 09 that said " Seems that Dinuguanboy is the one who started the Sh$t by passing Angie's Private statement to Paul"

I also have statements by Angie that claim Dinuguanboy forwarded her PM on to Paul and when I replied to a post by Dinuguanboy he didnt deny passing on to Paul his PM from Angie.

Do you know the full contents of that PM as I have a copy as well as copies of emails between Angie and Paul and I tell you if you dont know the full contents then what Angie told you, and I know what she told you, is not fully true?
"the only thing she said was she did not find him attractive! "  She said more than that and that was not what offended Paul according to the correspondence I have.  

So what am I to believe?

Americano Paul did not threaten Angie's life there were people who heard what Paul said to Angie and several of us were saying to her to back off from her antics with Paul on the forum but she wouldnt do it.   I have questions for you I'll ask tomorrow

I just want to know what the truth is about Paul so far I'm not convinced of some accusations I feel there are distortions and misinformation going on here and I dont like it at all.  I get the feeling some of you are railroading Paul on any charge against him you can find whether true or not.  Seems Paul is not the only guilty one.

I will start a new thread tomorrow when I have had some sleep with questions of my own.  


I just looked at those emails. It's just like anything, people interpret them differently. Angie did not say one thing about Paul that was not absolutely true. Mostly I am just busy at work. That crap went on over two years ago and I never gave it a thought till this PM issue came up.

I am the one who coaxed her into going to that party. K and I rode home with her and her family members afterwards. I'm sorry I got her to go now!

I offer the following but I will not discuss it further on this public forum. Getting a bit personal and she does not need any hassle. She helped me and my wife through some tough times and we love her for it.

After 2+ years, I read some of the emails between Paul and me + Angie and me. It appears that Dinuguanboy did start trouble on purpose by sending Angie's PM to Paul.

But Paul did say the following!

"I have proof that it was a PM from YOUR forum account"

"Now, because I have hard proof in the database that you did, in fact, make those statements, I will continue with the following statements of my own":

So my memory was not so good on this after so long. I was mistaken that  snooping the database was the main way he got the data! I am man enough to say when I made a mistake! Most everyone on the forums knows that!

But it does show that he possesses the technology and know how to glean any information from PMs that he wants! You take it from there when so many others have complained about him knowing what they PMed to someone else.

But Paul also said these things in the email!

"I have done nothing but fought to make others show Filipinos respect."

"I rebuke disrespectful statements and disparaging remarks against Filipinos, and especially Filipinas."

This from a guy who beats and chokes (in private), then disparages and humiliates (in public) most every Filipina he's ever been with. This to the point where it embarrasses those, male and female, who are in their presence! What a hypocrite!!!

In closing, I will leave you with this final statement from Paul.

"You never know what ol' Paul hears through the "walls" of this website."













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Quote from: 'Americano' pid='2192' dateline='1330865820'
I just saw this topic and I don't mind reply to it because I have nothing to hide.
As some of you already know I am the victims husband.


Maybe this is answered somewhere else, but this whole thing is so disjointed its hard to keep track.
As I understand it your wife has filed charges against Paul because he assaulted her- in your presence . Do I at least have that part correct?
What I am having a hard time figuring out is why you did not defend your wife- especially from a guy 4 times her size ?  

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