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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #330 on: March 6, 2012, 01:07:31 AM »
I never did any PM's,,,never felt comfortable,,,,,, I only responded to the very few (less than ten) who PM'd me!,,,out of courtesy! I am very cognizant of what I put on the internet, and I am even more so now.


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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #331 on: March 6, 2012, 01:30:17 AM »
Quote from: 'Jinx' pid='2375' dateline='1330993079'
Agree with that! Getting tired of the Paul stuff although this mornings new information was a bit shocking.. Two previous moderators confirming that Paul was reading peoples private messages. I do believe this breaks some U.S. laws (if the server is there). But lets not go down that route don't need another 20+ pages of discussion!


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Paul only had three computers in his house.  He had a DSL line and Wimax line at the time.  His wimax line was transferred to him when a person departed the Philippines.  Thus he wanted a load balancing router for the DSL and Wimax.  He was having some serious problems with the DSL connection at the time.  He additionally had a VOIP line. That was from the US that was going down when the DSL line crapped out.   He did not have a server at his place just three computers.  Four if you count that crappy one that had motherboard issues.  Two Laptops and a Desktop. I know he is heavy into torrents and TV torrents. So that was his primary use of the bandwidth he had.

I have more internet contraptions then Paul has.

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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #333 on: March 6, 2012, 01:36:34 AM »
Quote from: 'Mr Mike' pid='2362' dateline='1330987028'First of all, good luck with this new forum!

 So I'm not sure who I am talking too.

I am a little surprised and disturbed by the recent revelations regarding a few individuals on the other forum. Activities that I am sure 99% of the membership, including myself, knew nothing about.

To my knowledge, I have never had problems with the Mods, never attacked or purposely insulted any other member, and I contributed when I could.,,,, For that matter, I don't remember ever being attacked personally, either that or it just went over my head. So I have to say I don't see much is accomplished by demonizing the "other forum" or it's membership. I'm not pointing any fingers here

I realize now that a few members appear to have been wronged,  personally and/or financially, and as a result they have "left" the other forum. Well I can't blame you..............

What does concern me about the other forum, is that it might disappear, and all of that accumulated information will disappear as well. What a waste! ,,,just sayin

You have a "NICE" persona. That is good and you have my vote as a good man, husband and father.

Some people "see" things that "nice" people just do not ? and react to this subtle innuendo, insult or bulling of posters in a wholehearted frontal attack.

Just like marriage one never has a row or one does and clears the air.
I like to clear the air and get rid of the stink.

My X of 30 years as a Parthian shot said "You were never boring". :rolleyes:

Tom

AKA EAGLE

« Last Edit: March 6, 2012, 01:43:05 AM by singers »

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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #334 on: March 6, 2012, 02:01:42 AM »
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Quote from: 'Mr Mike' pid='2362' dateline='1330987028'
First of all, good luck with this new forum!

 So I'm not sure who I am talking too.

I am a little surprised and disturbed by the recent revelations regarding a few individuals on the other forum. Activities that I am sure 99% of the membership, including myself, knew nothing about.

To my knowledge, I have never had problems with the Mods, never attacked or purposely insulted any other member, and I contributed when I could.,,,, For that matter, I don't remember ever being attacked personally, either that or it just went over my head. So I have to say I don't see much is accomplished by demonizing the "other forum" or it's membership. I'm not pointing any fingers here

I realize now that a few members appear to have been wronged,  personally and/or financially, and as a result they have "left" the other forum. Well I can't blame you..............

What does concern me about the other forum, is that it might disappear, and all of that accumulated information will disappear as well. What a waste! ,,,just sayin


You have a "NICE" persona. That is good and you have my vote as a good man, husband and father.

Some people "see" things that "nice" people just do not ? and react to this subtle innuendo, insult or bulling of posters in a wholehearted frontal attack.

Just like marriage one never has a row or one does and clears the air.
I like to clear the air and get rid of the stink.

My X of 30 years as a Parthian shot said "You were never boring". :rolleyes:

Tom

AKA EAGLE


Simply said,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thank you Eagle!

« Last Edit: March 6, 2012, 02:07:14 AM by Mr Mike »

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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #335 on: March 6, 2012, 02:13:25 AM »
Quote from: 'Woolf' pid='2383' dateline='1330997417'
Quote from: 'Jinx' pid='2375' dateline='1330993079'
Agree with that! Getting tired of the Paul stuff although this mornings new information was a bit shocking.. Two previous moderators confirming that Paul was reading peoples private messages. I do believe this breaks some U.S. laws (if the server is there). But lets not go down that route don't need another 20+ pages of discussion!


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For those of us who are not as bright as some others- just exactly what answew does that link give ?  I see the word abuse mentioned several times, but nothing specific[/color][/i]


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I see Steve denies that there is any modifications that allows reading of PMs. That may be true, but.......
All Paul has to do is download the database onto an offline computer running a hacked version of the forum software.
He would have full access to anything he wants.
Just saying........
Explain how Paul knew about Angie's PM's?

Read up about PMs and how many Admins read people's PMs.

I also think they can do it as you do not have an expectation of privacy on any forum.
Also PM on Paul's forum means Personal Messenger, not Private Messenger.
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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #337 on: March 6, 2012, 02:38:05 AM »
QuoteFor those of us who are not as bright as some others- just exactly what answew does that link give ? I see the word abuse mentioned several times, but nothing specific


It shows the server that Living In Cebu is hosted on is located in the United States.

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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #338 on: March 6, 2012, 02:40:28 AM »
Quote from: 'wowwowee' pid='2391' dateline='1331000005'
Quote from: 'Woolf' pid='2383' dateline='1330997417'
Quote from: 'Jinx' pid='2375' dateline='1330993079'
Agree with that! Getting tired of the Paul stuff although this mornings new information was a bit shocking.. Two previous moderators confirming that Paul was reading peoples private messages. I do believe this breaks some U.S. laws (if the server is there). But lets not go down that route don't need another 20+ pages of discussion!


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looks like you have the answer there



For those of us who are not as bright as some others- just exactly what answew does that link give ?  I see the word abuse mentioned several times, but nothing specific[/color][/i]

It answers the question about if the hosting company is in USA, it looks like it is



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Paul does it for lots of reasons I think! Just think about it.

Personal matters.

People discussing business ventures.

People discussing legal matters.

etc.......

I am pretty sure you can do a search on the database directly if you know the right search string! His words in the email to Angie were, after she tried to deny sending it, you can't deny sending the PM because it's all right here in the database. He then pasted the text from her PM.

I believe Steve and Broden, but Paul is lying his a*s off!
« Last Edit: March 6, 2012, 02:43:47 AM by Bob Ward »

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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #340 on: March 6, 2012, 03:34:28 AM »
I believe there are no laws that prohibit the owner of the server or forum from reading anything they wish.
It actually becomes their property when you post on their forum. They can delete or modify your post at will.
Just as companies can monitor their employee's email and online activities.
You have no expectation of privacy, and none were stated when you joined.
You post at your peril.
It just is sleazy to read other's messages.
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I will answer some questions or issues here.

A topic was closed before I was on line to answer Markham's last question which was, am I saying I believe Paul reentered the Philippines illegally? I will answer that question by telling you what Immigration told me. They believe he reentered the Philippines by not using Sr. on his new Passport. When the name on his Passport was run throught the system it didn't come up as being Blacklisted becasue it wasn't a perfect match. His Passport in January 2006 when he was Blacklisted had Sr. on it. And, then they said they would not know for sure how and where he reentered the Philippines until they look at the stamps in his Passport. So did he reenter the Philippines illegally? Its possible but probably no one knows the answer to that question yet except for Paul, but one thing is for sure, he is Blacklisted and is therefore here illegally.

Some people think Manilyn was drunk when she was physically assaulted by Paul. Manilyn cannot stand the smell or taste of any alcohol. She doesn't even drink beer. You can ask everyone who knows her. She never drinks. She was sober and only trying to protect her new cell phone which was in her hand while she was being assaulted.

Che-che could not have called Mike's wife later that night because Lee was tired from making the long trip from Canada so they went to sleep earlier that night and left Moalboal the next morning before Manilyn and I left at about 12 noon. Lee and Che-che didn't know anything happened until 2 or 3 days later when Che-che noticed Manilyn injuries. Paul started sending messages to Lee telling him what happened and Lee heard Manilyn's side of the story. Since he didn't see any of it and he wanted to know the truth Lee went back to Moalboal and talked to people who were eye witnesses.

Paul wants people to believe that I beat up Manilyn. (Maybe he wishes that I do so I would be like him.) The last time Lee went back to Canada to work Che-che lived with Manilyn and me. I invite everyone to ask Che-che about our relationship. She will tell you that Manilyn and I never had one fight or hit each other while she was living with us. Lee is back in Canada working again and Che-che is living in the apartment below us. We see her almost every day. If you don't know how to contact her by phone, Facebook or email and want to just let me know by PM. Maniyln and I have nothing to hide, but we all know who is hiding.
Quote from: 'fanboat' pid='2334' dateline='1330970802'
Quote from: 'Americano' pid='2314' dateline='1330945121'
Quote from: 'fanboat' pid='2271' dateline='1330908940'
if you saw what happened please do tell us
was she frailing her arms about and beating the husband
did paul grab her arms to stop the beating
why did the husband not cool down the agression by his wife
is so so mad that she wants revenge
was there ever any apologys offered


I will answer your last question. Paul never apologized for physically abusing Manilyn. When she confronted him on Facebook, he called her a lying bitch. He refused to admit he caused her injuries and he called her a lying bitch. If he was really sorry for what he did and repented then she could have forgiven him. After he refused to take responsibility for what he did Manilyn decided Paul needs to be in prison for what he did to her and then be deported so he can't abuse another Filipina. Too many Filipinas lives have already been destroyed by Paul.

It doesn't matter if you report this back to Paul because its the truth.


thanks for the reply,
I just like Lee have parted ways with Paul because of Vivian.she was helpless in his presents and her face started showing her stress(very sad looking eyes)I just wonder about pauls child hood and where this defect comes from?
You must know...if you send paul to prison,this will kill him.
he needs help to get over his abuse problems...but not a death sentence!
ps...look to his avatar...you shall find him...hope an apologee can stop the witch hunt...and so sorry you became a victim




Paul is only using a picture of a baby to try to gain sympathy. Do you actually believe he cares about another man and woman's child when he didn't even help raise his own son. He ran away to the Philippines leaving his son to grow up without a father.

Talking about pictures, why has Paul removed his pictures from Linc and Facebook? Is this part of his attempt to hide? There are pictures of him all over the Internet and on people's computers so I don't think it will work.

He is the man many people are looking for.


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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #342 on: March 6, 2012, 05:20:01 AM »
This is what I have posted on LINC and my opinion is the same for any forum. I will continue to use both forums and appreciate the opportunity to be a part of two great resources.

"I admit after reading some of the interesting posts of late, I joined the other forum too. It does not mean I no longer appreciate all I have learned and hours of entertainment I have received from LINC.

At the end of the day, a forum is just a forum. Words floating in cyberspace that readers read, filter and attach their own personal meaning to. What the owner does, or does not do, makes no difference to me and quite frankly is none of my business.

While I have read some things which if they are true I would find a little disturbing, it really has got nothing to do with me and I will still continue to use both forums to learn info and hear different peoples views on the place I will soon call home again.

After all, we all are merely guests on a forum. The forum nor the owner owes us anything and moderators, good or bad, do a thankless job with no financial benefit. (That I know of). "

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RE: The other forum........
« Reply #343 on: March 6, 2012, 05:20:11 AM »
Quote from: 'harrell' pid='2399' dateline='1331004868'
It just is sleazy to read other's messages.

No Argument there!
Regarding privacy & security in general, I am stunned that people are stunned...everything leaves a foot print.

Access to online files - like social networking by HRSelect companies and the like is happening in real time.

Gullibility is not an asset in the information age!


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Quote from: 'harrell' pid='2392' dateline='1331000067'
I see Steve denies that there is any modifications that allows reading of PMs. That may be true, but.......
All Paul has to do is download the database onto an offline computer running a hacked version of the forum software.
He would have full access to anything he wants.
Just saying........
Explain how Paul knew about Angie's PM's?

Read up about PMs and how many Admins read people's PMs.

I also think they can do it as you do not have an expectation of privacy on any forum.
Also PM on Paul's forum means Personal Messenger, not Private Messenger.


Paul doesn't need to download anything because he can do it all online by logging-on to his server and run phpMyAdmin to examine the database. All the PMs will be in one table and will include member numbers for sender and recipients. It is laughably easy and he may even have a php or Perl script to produce a nice report containing all the details.

Steve is a person I credit with considerably more integrity and if he says that the IPB software has not been modified (to allow PMs to be read), then I'm inclined to believe him. However his answer didn't address the core issue - that I and others believe PMs are being routinely read; he may not know or wish to know.


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